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October 18th CNN Republican Debate [Full Video & Poll]

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Overview

At 8pm on Tuesday October 18th, CNN and the Western Republican Leadership Conference hested the most recent in a line of GOP Presidential debates.

Many of the early front-runners have struggled in the most recent debates. Mitt Romney has seen his once-formidable lead become second pace to a rotating cadre of new blood. Rick Perry stumbled in the last two debates and Michele Bachmann never recovered from her Gaurdasil/autism claim. Herman Cain now enjoys front-runner status and seemed to hold up to the increased scrutiny in the debate on October 11th.

Tuesday night’s debate promised to focus on Herman Cain and Mitt Romney – the two front-runners. Herman Cain defended his 9-9-9 plan using fruit analogies and Romney fumbled on everything from illegal immigration to Romneycare.

This was by far the most argumentative and least informative debate of the season. CNN’s Anderson Cooper was out to get the candidates to wrestle – informing voters wasn’t in CNN’s interest.

Jon Huntsman chose to boycott the debate due to Nevada’s primary scheduling battle with New Hampshire. Huntsman will instead hold a campaign event Tuesday morning.

Participants

Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum

Video/Streaming

The debate was held at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada and aired on CNN.

Full Video of the Debate (from RCP):

The Debate in 100 seconds (TPM):

Cain and Romney in a fruit fight over 9-9-9:

Perry and Romney Spar on Illegal Immigration:

Ron Paul on Obamacare:

Santorum and Romney on Romneycare:

Herman Cain Negotiates With Terrrorists:
Wanting Cain to do well, this and the fruit exchange blew it. Listen as Herman Cain tells us that he wouldn’t negotiate with terrorists, except in certain cases. No negotiating with terrorists.. except?

and here’s the transcript:

Herman Cain, let me ask this to you. A few hours ago you were asked by Wolf Blitzer, if al Qaeda had an American soldier in captivity, and they demanded the release of everyone at Guantanamo Bay, would you release them? And you said, quote: “I can see myself authorizing that kind of a transfer. Can you explain?

HERMAN CAIN, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The rest of the statement was quite simply, you would have to consider the entire situation. But let me say this first, I would have a policy that we do not negotiate with terrorists. We have to lay that principle down first.

Now being that you have to look at each individual situation and consider all the facts. The point that I made about this particular situation is that I’m sure Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had to consider a lot of things before he made that.

So on the surface, I don’t think we can say he did the right thing or not. A responsible decision-maker would have considered everything.

 

Bachmann on Obama’s Illegal Immigrant Family:

Ron Paul on the 9-9-9 Plan:

Other stuff:

CNN’s full transcript of the debate

Debate Poll:

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  7. Hello Americans,

    There are two roads that we can take, both roads lead to hardship, and are not easy. We have passed that easy street long ago. The Ron Paul road will not be easy for a few years, but I believe will have best results for all of us.
    The other road of any one of the other candidates is more of the same, more of the same. Can we all agree that more of the same is not working very well? Oh heck they might throw in a few differences, but it is all lip service.
    1. Take care of yourselves.
    2. Rely on yourselves.
    3. Take care of America first.

  8. Ron Paul is our choice for real democracy. Big brother has become too big and too close with its sibling big corporations.

    1. Ahh~!! Finally a poll that represents the American people. The media and other conservatives may not want to admit it but RON PAUL IS THE CHOICE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. He stands for everything this country is based upon and stands up for what he believes in despite what anyone thinks. He has thirty years of consistency unlike ROMNEY and PERRY who have flipped flopped so many times, I think its hilarious they call themselves republicans. Ron Paul has more experience in politics and life in general. Not to mention, he predicted in 2003 THE MESS WE’RE IN NOW, which by the way Cain admits to not seeing coming. Funny the “business” man can’t predict the burst of the inflation housing bubble by Paul can. HE IS THE ONE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT! LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL :)

  9. Mitt Romney has clearly been the individual that stands out it these debates. His credentials are unmatched by any of the other candidates. He has experience in goverment as well as the private sector. He is known for helping to recover companies in economic distress as well as the olympics from collapse. This country is in near collapse and having someone like Cain or Paul that wil not be able to accomplish any of their outlandish ideas will be the final straw in our our demise.

    1. Have to disagree with you, john.

      Ron Paul is the one. He is the only one that will actually answer a question and you come away with a clear understanding of where he stands… No flip-flopping, sound bites or pandering to the audience.
      Don’t you want someone representing you who:

      1. Bases all of his decision on LAW (the constitution)
      2. Is not a war monger (he never voted for a war or military action)
      3. Has Morals and values (in practice, not in theory)
      4. 20+ years experience as a representative
      5. 20+ years of common sense, fiscal responsibility and complete understanding of economics
      6. is committed to PROTECTING YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS AND PERSONAL FREEDOM
      7. Understands that he works FOR the American people and derives his leadership from the CONSENT of the
      governed
      8. Does not accept money from lobbyists and is not swayed by political party or media pressure
      NO one else running for President have these qualities… So why would anyone vote for someone who has shown they dont have the best interests of the people at heart?

    2. If Mitt Romney stands out, it is for trying to distance himself from his own past more than any of the other candidates, with the possible exception of Rick Perry.

      How could anybody in their right mind want him as president, when he has so clearly been a political opportunist who takes whatever positions are convenient? He sounds fairly conservative now, because he’s running for president in the GOP primary, but who knows what he really stands for? I wonder whether he even knows himself.

      In the Las Vegas debate, both Rick Perry and Rick Santorum nailed him on points that he avoided addressing. Perry pointed out that he knew the people he was paying to mow his lawn were undocumented migrants for a year before he fired them, because a newspaper had brought it to his attention.

      It’s not that he knowingly had undocumented persons working for him, it’s the hypocrisy of posturing as tough on immigration now.

      And speaking of people mowing Romney’s lawns, is this really a good time for the GOP to be running a super-wealthy political insider with ties to Wall Street, whose major donors include people at companies like Goldman Sachs? He’s like a Republican version of John Kerry.

      Santorum nailed Romney for taking out of his book his previous touting of “Romneycare” as a model for the entire nation. Notice he never denies this charge, only talks around it. The only reason Romney is so adamant about repealing Obamacare now, is that he knows he has to make up for his own track record of foisting a program that was a model for Obamacare on the people of Massachusetts. (Of course he can claim now that they like it, since most Massachusetts residents are liberal — that doesn’t mean it was a good idea, or that it will actually help make health care in that state more available and affordable. It was a bad idea for many of the same reasons Obamacare is a bad idea.)

      Sure, Romney is smart, and looks presidential. Those are the only things he’s got going for him, besides being able to rake in the big corporate bucks. You can just see the inauthenticity oozing out of the man. At least I can. I sure hope enough others aren’t taken in by him to keep the GOP from making a colossal mistake.

    3. Sorry John. Your conclusions won’t hold water.
      Romney’s political “experience” as an officeholder is one term as Mass governor. Period.
      He didn’t run for a second term because he was so unpopular he knew he couldn’t win.
      Romney’s only other political “experience” is as a candidate for POTUS. He’s not done well there at all.
      Running a business is totally different from running a country. A CEO or corporate president may listen to others, but he alone decides…and there is NO tolerance for dissension. You agree with and carry out his decisions or you’re gone.
      That’s obviously not the way this country, or any democracy, works.
      Romney has zero experience in the kind of leadership required of a POTUS. Zero.
      At Bain Capital, Romney financed mergers and acquisitions that resulted in a NET LOSS of jobs. He claims to have created jobs. In fact, he destroyed jobs. Period.
      Do some more reading, John. Learn the facts. When you know something, get back to us.

    4. Mitt Romney is the best choice! At least that’s what Goldman Sachs says, his number one contributor. Oh, wait…their the ones that caused to melt down. Never mind. I’ guess I’ll support the choice of the troops who contributed most to Ron Paul. Support the troops! Vote Ron Paul!

      You wanna support the troops or Goldman Sachs?

    5. John everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that. Did you know that Mitt in a Bildeberg wannabe and a big fan of the council on foreign relations. that means screw the Constitution, more globalism, more banker bailouts, more quantitative easing. Name the candidate that supports the constitution? The return of law and power back to we the people. Think about it.
      T

  10. Paul is the only non-politician politition on the stage. His ideas and way of thinking remind me of what I talk with friends about. Things that most poilititians are afraid to go public with. Paul’s got my vote.

    1. Hey ric-
      Your vote for Ron Paul will be wasted.
      BTW, there’s no such thing as a “non-political politician.”
      You’re in Fantasyland, ric. When your head stops spinning, join the real world.

      1. non-POLITICIAN politician. there is such a thing…
        if you think anyone else on that stage is better for our country than Paul, you’re in fantasy land.
        always appreciate the criticism.

      2. A vote for anyone else other than Ron Paul is a wasted vote, because it will get you the same as you would with Obama. More wars and banker bailouts that are making us broke.

        1. BK,
          Please do your research on Ron Paul. I too in 2008 was skeptical. How could you not be? The media makes him out to be a complete joke and sometimes he can be a bit shocking BUT THEN I actually listened to the man, read his book, watched his speeches, and I was truly moved. He IS the only that will bring about a change to this country. No other candidate will change much of anything in our already war torn, bankrupt society. Although at first he can seem a bit much, take in what he says and you will soon realize he makes perfect sense and genuinely wants whats best for AMERICA.

          1. Rebecca,

            I agree. But, I don’t think it takes much reading, listening, or researching to know when a someone says the only way to get out of debt is to stop spending. That is common sense and that idea is opposite of everyone else. I am also in the military and I support Ron Paul. I know I will be effected by his budget cuts, but I think it is something I am will to deal with.

  11. I loved the part where Ron Paul made the distinguished between divided “groups” and all-inclusive human solidarity. A brilliant strike even if a lot of folks missed.
    Scored big on his trillion-dollar deficit cut plan and foreign policy spanking of other candidates, especially in regards to the Iran hostage negotiation as precedent for diplomacy with our “enemies”.
    That’s when you realize that the choice is simple: it’s either Ron Paul, or the Dem-Rep status quo. Freedom or Debt Slavery.
    The good news, and cause to get hopeful, is that there’s a mass awakening going on. People are realizing they’ve been lied to for decades and those who’ve been saying so for years are getting bolder as a result, which can only accelerate the movement.
    Let’s pray it happens quick enough.
    Free America Now.

  12. Ron Paul is the only choice among these “candidates”. What could be more obvious?! The rest are idiots and fools, and totally in the pockets of the large corporate interests that have taken over the government and the media. We are now in the midst of several wars, which are costing us trillions; indeed, they are costing us our very economy. Bring the crooks down! Occupy Wall Street, and vote for Ron Paul!! He is our last hope as a nation.

    1. Rafael writes:
      “Ron Paul is the only choice among these “candidates”. What could be more obvious?!”
      One thing that’s more obvious, Rafael, is that you’re into the Kool-Aid big time.
      Ron Paul has zero chance to be POTUS, Rafael.
      Zero.
      You’re wasting your breath, time and vote being led along by Ron “The Pied Piper” Paul.
      Read something, Rafael. Learn. LEARN! Then get back to us.
      Meantime…go away.

      1. I voted for Obama, and have never voted for a republican, ever, but I would vote for Ron Paul. Republicans campaign on reducing the size of “Big Government”, but they always greatly increase government spending (vastly increasing wasteful military spending). Democrats may seem anti-war, but they too also increase military spending. Millions of democrats are fed up with all this, as are millions of republicans. Ron Paul is the answer! BOTH the democrats and republicans supported the bail out of the Wall Street crooks. If you don’t understand what happened, please educate yourself – in short, trillions of dollars have been swindled from all of us by criminal con-artists. It would be easy to miss this, since the corporate controlled media is astonishing quiet about such issues. Our government is currently completely controlled by big multinational corporations; vote for Ron Paul, to get our country back!

        1. Yes.
          GOP=daddy state “be afraid we will protect you.”

          Democrats=mommy state “be afraid mommy will give you everything” and now also “be afraid we will protect you.”

        2. Rafael, I understand and share you frustration with Barack Obama. He has abandoned those who voted to get him to the WH…people like you and I.
          But I don’t see how Ron Paul can possibly win the nomination. If he does and by some miracle goes on to become POTUS, he would create more gridlock in Washington than we have now. There are very few on either side of the aisle in Congress that would support much of what Ron Paul advocates. We desperately need some cool and calm there, not more turmoil.
          I respect your view. And I must say that Ron Paul has remained faithful to his core beliefs during his whole career. But I don’t think he has a chance to become POTUS and would create more problems than he’d solve if he did.

        3. Let me first say I am in the military and I support Ron Paul. I don’t like his foreign policy, but at this point it does not matter. I think the 2012 election will seal our (the world) fate for bad or good. I guess the world may be coming to an end in 2012. As for Occupy Wall Street, a lot of those kids are miss guided. They call for an increase government in business and more taxes. I agree with Ron Paul during the Las Vegas debate when he said these people are the victims. But, don’t get me or him wrong. the victims are people like my father who was making $100,000 during Bush, and now has no job and is losing his house, not the ‘College Know It All Hippies’ that just feel like someone should pay for their tuition. The news has a good habit of feeding us half truths because they probably don’t know the whole story. They just report what they do know. With that being said, we should all take a middle ground to the approach, and understand that there is another half of a story, which is the government involvement in business. Again, Ron Paul brought this up during the Las Vegas Debate. Ron Paul also said let the businesses regulate themselves. We should all agree to this at some extent, i.e the government should not allow what Enron did, and this idea of ‘Mark-to-Market accounting’, along with these Investment Banks i.e Goldman Sach and Citi Group. The Government should have stayed out these failing corporations, and not have bailed them out. Understand that if they did not pass the bailed out, millions of people if not billions of people around the world would have lost their jobs. America and many other countries would have lost trillions of dollars in foreign investments, and we would still see a collapsing economy. But I agree with Ron Paul, don’t get the government involved. Eventually these corporations would stop with corrosive business practices, and start regulating themselves to prevent this from happening again ( think of it as self preservation) Rich people want to stay rich. I’m sure if the Investment banks failed we would see a lot of 1%’ers standing with the rest of us 99%’ers .

          I have seen the US $1 lose almost half its worth during Bush’s Presidency. Our money is not worth shit anymore, thank you Federal Reserve. Paper money does not mean anything to them, but 1’s and 0’s on a computer file. They do not carry paper money with the worth we carry our paper money. Up until recently I thought my dollar was actually worth something more than the paper it was printed on. Look at some news about France and 17 other European countries wanting Germany to take back its veto in the EFSF. Basically the European Union…”with support from most of the 17 euro zone states, including Italy and Spain — argues the European Financial Stability Fund should be given a banking license, allowing the fund to leverage its lending capacity by tapping almost unlimited credit from the ECB’s lending window.” So the under capitalized banks (because people are not paying off their debts) want to be able to dip into ‘unlimited credit’ so they can borrow the money they are losing from people not paying their debts… looks like the 99% is just as much to blame as the 1% also.

          Vote Ron Paul!!!… Or Newt Gingrich

      2. Bk,
        One more thing,
        The fact that Ron Paul has 69% of the vote on this page, is proof enough he is not some joke.

        1. Rafael-
          I’m not sure what % of the vote Paul has on this page, but I’ll accept your 69% number.
          What % do you think Paul would have at, say, HuffPost or The Nation? Media tends to attract those with similar preconceptions.
          I didn’t say Ron Paul was a joke. The Pied Piper comment was intended to prove what I just wrote above. Ron Paul is attracting those who already believe pretty much as he does. At Conservative Daily News that is likely to be a high %. Across America, his % would be much lower, probably not much above single digits.
          Ron Paul is a serious man who has not varied much from his beliefs over 30 years. And I agree that he has some good ideas. For example, his stand on not getting involved in regional disputes halfway around the world is sound. We went to Afghanistan in 2008 because al Qaeda was based there and there was clear evidence that the 9/11 perps had been trained there. We should not have expanded militarily in the ME.
          I imagine Paul as president, going about his business, trying to get support for his strict libertarian beliefs. There’s not a chance he’d succeed. There are very few in the US who would support his views on SS, Medicare, unemployment compensation, taxation, disaster relief, and other issues.
          BK

  13. Romney and Perry are about as sincere as a pedophile priest. Cain is a shill for the FED and the entrenched criminal cabal in DC. Santorum is smegma made alive. Paul has been preaching the same message year after year and FINALLY the people are waking up. Returning salary to the treasury? My God this man has principals and morals AND ethics. Why would someone like Perry, Cain or Romney need more on top of their millions/billions? Because they are greedy psychopathic liars, much like Pelosi, Feindstein and even Bloomberg.

  14. I definitely think my vote will go for Bachmann. Wait was she the annoying one that keep yelling Annnderson, Annnderson, Annnderson the whole time just to get her chance to speak when nobody had mentioned her. I think she was also the source of all the high pitched laughs that were echoed right into the microphone the whole night. I don’t think we need somebody that doesn’t have sense enough not to laugh right into a microphone, and makes outrageous accusations about the president of our country just to get a half asleep crowd to clap for her.
    As for ole Rick. Come on man. Stop calling Cain brother. You haven’t had a black friend in your life, and cat fighting with Romney isn’t going to get you votes, especially when the crowd is booing you. Come on Texans. Can’t we do better than that as our Governor. He got punked by every person there, including Bachmann. He is a joke.

  15. Last nights debate (Las Vegas) was one one of the worst debates I watched. I am tired of watching the candidates bicker back and forth. That kind of debate needs to be used for the final debate against Obama. You could just see how Anderson Cooper was loving this and his smerky grin. He had no control what so ever in that debate. We need a real candidate that won’t put up with this kind of nonsense and that person was Newt Gingrich. We need to serious think of which candidate can beat Obama and get this country back together. Ron Paul has some common sense, but I don’t think he can beat Obama. I see three possible candidates that have a chance 1.) Newt Gingrich, 2.) Mitt Rom Romney and 3.) Herman Cain.

    1. I really don’t see any of those three as being able to “out-debate” Obama. If you recall the Republican meme in the 2008 elections is that Obama only knows how to campaign and speak publicly. But televised debates don’t win elections either. Baring some absurd catastrophe, as it should be, debates give some marginal lift that can be erased quickly. That lift fades as additional information, messaging and influence accumulates after the debate’s closing commercial ad. The debate “bickering” you’d like candidates to save for the general election debates is going to be worth only “a perishable bump” for somebody.

      For the general election, what we all should be focused upon is how well candidates address the issue of “job creation” (vs. tax cuts or national debt, or electrified alligator-moat fences for example) as the issue of jobs is squarely where the concern of the American population sits waiting. No?

      None of these candidates have demonstrated capacity in that “issue” department. Perry talks about his state creating jobs under his governorship (Obama stimulus-funded jobs) out of one side of his mouth and that government does not create jobs out of the other side of his mouth. (?) That’s about it. The rest of the substance from all the candidates has been “I’m the best man for the job of creating jobs.” all empty of anything meaningful.

      Yes, these guys are all playing to conservative issues in a conservative primary. Candidates are speaking in their own interests, to become the chosen Republican candidate, pushing your emotional buttons rather than speaking to and addressing your interests. Politics. I see a slam-dunk coming for Obama’s who will dominate on the critical turf issues ~ including the country’s front-burner issue: JOBS. Regardless of primary winner, topics like “what sort of fence should it be?” will be relegated to back-burner in the general. So….which of these guys has any sort of genuine “jobs” message? The demonstrated thrust of Obama’s campaign is jobs. Wakey. Wakey.

      Demand that your GOP candidates demonstrate what they are made of in their addressing vs. avoiding jobs creation. The GOP House (no meaningful initiatives or action, but instead foot-dragging and opposition on jobs creation) has only been setting-up the shot for Obama. Cain’s Jobs plan, for example, so far seems to be perfect as a special interest corporate spokesperson: to tell 14 million people, for whom there is no job, that the shortage of jobs in this country, including 280,000 recently laid-off teachers for example, is that the country’s unemployment situation is their individual fault, so quit being lazy. Nice. I can only assume this election is going to be extremely interesting and that the dispositions of these candidates is going to fill the streets with Americans not also fighting for corporate interests ~ but for OWS.

      1. Just sayin… the last time conservatives ignored, and bad-mouthed, a left-wing populist movement, there was a left-wing American President who elected to four (4) consecutive terms of office. Maybe…. just maybe, that’s why Eric Cantor is suddenly talking about a mob’s incoherent message? Cantor of all people, on FOX of all places, this past weekend was actually talking about needing to do something “Income Disparity.” Go figure.

        1. DearA little Anonymous On top says:
          October 19, 2011 at 2:02 pm

          Oh spare us the re-written history about past Democratic movements and the attempted fluff-job on the history of the nasty Communist Party USA, or should we say The National Socialist workers party that is in bed with the Liberal Democrats of today? Fox news of all things? Show us a lie they said this year? Ya can’t because you just bash them without even watching them, like a 5-yr old who doesn’t know when to go to the bathroom until Mommy tells them to. MSNBC on the other hand, is so full of themselves that they think the idiots of society don’t see the historic trillion dollar deficits Obama has rung up every single year in office. Grow out of the the Fox bashing and educate yourself with something other than swallowing/pimping Obama’s Marxist ideology/ and the common beggar mentality of his wealth redistribution chants.

    2. Newt Gingrich, the father of NAFTA? An open borders loving, globalist, war mongering piece of scum who is owned by the Israeli Lobby, who is a filthy neo-con and a RINO slab of human garbage? Newt Gingrich, who is so subservient to the murderous, war mongering agenda for the psychopaths who run Israel – immediately jumped in front of the first TV camera he could, trying to milk that latest Israeli phony and manufactured ‘Iran assassination plot’ which was just one more trick, in a long line of other failed attempts, to snooker the USA to starting YET ANOTHER INSANE AND CRIMINAL WAR against Iran for the benefit of Israel? Are you out of your freaking mind, Bruce? Oh wait, and let’s not forget that Newt Gingrich, father of NAFTA and fully in favor of every one of these treasonous ‘free trade’ agreements which are causing millions of decent paying, middle-class jobs and the industries which provided those jobs to be outsourced and off-shored to third world nations which pay slave wages – and which is destroying the middle class in America, a clear ACT OF RAW TREASON against his own nation – well, it gets better. Newt wants to make Puerto Rico a State, because that brainless idiot seems to think that Puerto Rico is chocked full of conservative republican voters? I’ll tell what Newt Gingrich deserves: He deserves to be arrested for treason, put on trial – with his jury consisting of 12 men and women who’s jobs were lost and who’s lives were destroyed by NAFTA or any one of these other treasonous free trade policies that this rat has promoted – and tried for treason, and using this guys voting record, swiftly convicted and then awarded the death penalty – which is still prescribed for Treason, if I recall.

      Newt Gingrich is a piece of treasonous, globalist garbage.

      1. TSK TSK- Clinton signed NAFTA into law after BOTH Democratic-controlled Houses of Congress passed it.

        Read up Paulie kids:

        http://www.nolanchart.com/article368-inflation-has-dropped-to-08.html

        NAFTA was a piece of legislation that was unprecedented in its scope and economic consequences as it conferred dictatorial powers of implementation to the executive branch of government without any congressional oversight whatsoever. Moreover, NAFTA established secret working groups that are publicly funded, totally unaccountable to anyone and they operate off the radar of congressional and public scrutiny.

        NAFTA passed in both houses of Democratically controlled Congress in 1993. In the Senate, it passed with 61 yeas and 38 nays. In the House, it was much closer at 234 yeas to 200 nays. The Republicans in the House really came through for Clinton by providing 132 Yeas to counter 156 Democratic nays. Still, 40% of the Democrats in the House voted for NAFTA.

        The vote itself is more than a bit intriguing. Many of NAFTA’s congressional supporters ended up presidential candidates or high ranking congressional and government officials. On the Senate side, the big name Democratic who voted for NAFTA include Bill Bradley, Tom Daschle, Christopher Dodd, Ted Kennedy, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry and Joe Biden. All of these Democrats had made various bids for the presidency or vice presidency of the United States (Ted Kennedy’s presidential bid was squashed when he let an innocent woman drown). Interestingly, big name NAFTA supporting Republicans include John McCain, Bob Dole (defeated by Clinton), Mitch McConnell (current Senate Minority Leader) and many other Republicans in Congress were none too eager to assist Bill Clinton in the sellout of the American worker.

        And of course big named progressive Republicans has their part in it.
        On the House side, NAFTA supporters included big name GOPers as Dennis Hastert, Newt Gingrich, Dick Armey, John Boehner, Newt Gingrich and Ron Portman, all of whom rose to leadership positions in the House or the Bush Administration. Democrat Nancy Pelsoi, who voted yes on NAFTA, ended up Speaker of the House.

        YES NAFTA was a big-ass mistake. So was voting for a hope n change Marxist in 2008.However, neither of those facts makes Ron Paul a viable candidate for POTUS in 2012.

        1. You do not remember that vomit inducing image of Clinton, Dole, and Gingrich all up on stage dancing the mariachi, celebrating and smirking to the TV cameras, when NAFTA got passed? You do not recall how Rush Bimbo used his radio show to demonize Buchanan and Perot and anyone else in the America First community who correctly and ACCURATELY predicted that this treasonous legislation and subsequent others which were soon to also be enacted – would lead to a great sucking sound of jobs and industries leaving America for the slave wage Third World countries?

          Ginkgo Biloba is an herb that is reported to help improve memory skills. Obviously, you haven’t heard of this natural herb.

    3. Obama= pro war, pro banker bailout, pro torture (gitmo still open for torture)

      Ron Paul= against all of those.

      “If we’re going to have bailouts we should bailout the individuals with loans and not the lenders.”
      Ron Paul. Quote from Oct 18 CNN debate.

  16. I think if the Media would give Ron Paul the same time they give the other runners anyone with a brain and some common sence would be sold on his plan to get us back on our feet. The others are simply the same thing we have in Washington right now, selfish, egotistical criminals. We need to get the news papers to show him and mention him also. I think they are afarid of him but they are cheating the publics right to know more about him. Cowards all. Go Ron Paul

  17. It all comes down to a simple question. Are you selfish or selfless? Tough decisions have to be made in order to get this country back on track. We’ve dug in too far to come out of this unscathed. The decisions needed to be made will hurt everyone, including the 1%. When we’re ready to do the right thing to balance our budget and pay off debt, our lifestyle will regress for a time. The longer we wait the worse it will be. The question is, are we willing to bare this ourselves or continue to limp along until our children or grandchildren are forced to deal with it? Are we willing to vote for Ron Paul or someone else?

  18. Ron Paul all the way, the only one who offers a real change and the only one who can defeat Obama, why? BECAUSE RON PAUL IS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS AND MAKES SENSE.

    1. I agree if we want change… The FIRST thing we need to do is Bring our troops HOME!!! and shrink the size and control of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT… they are telling us what to do with every aspect of our lives…. IGNORING the CONSTITUTION… I Support ……….. RON PAUL ……….2012

      Give us back our freedom

  19. i think Romney bought the audience.
    he did very good back in 2008 too. THE SPINELESS TOOL spends an enormous amount to get the votes.

  20. Your shitty poll won’t let me select Ron Paul. “Please choose a valid answer”
    As a precinct committeeman I am witnessing first hand what a crock of shit the GOP has become.
    There proclamation didn’t even include the word constitution any way, shape or form.
    It does now in the very first sentance. I raised the issue and no one dared object. The meetings are like a cheerleading camp. All they care about is beating the other team. They have no problem following orders of their corrupt cult leaders. But they will make every effort to keep constitutionally grounded new guys out of their clicks.
    The media, like this poll, is just like those meetings pretending Ron Paul doesn’t exist

    1. is this some kind of joke?
      Ron Pau won. why not let the truth come through?

      he WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2. Ron Paul!!!! Every single other fake ass f*** in this debate will never speak their true mind! He is the only one answering questions in a true EXECUTIVE manor. Hey-suess. we’re done.

    3. It won’t let me vote for RON PAUL either….
      says please make a valid choice…..

      RON PAUL is the ONLY valid choice out of all of them

  21. This was painful to watch. Newt looked as if he is the only one with anything going on upstairs, perhaps Ron as well. God help us if Perry or Cain make it anywhere.

  22. all these candidates with the exclusion of ron paul, are nothing more than cancers slowly and painfully bringing liberty to its knees. What happened to the idea of working for the people and making a better america for all. All i see is would be bobby fisher’s awaiting their turn at the board. We are not pawns, nor are we slaves. How fast they forget that they took an oath to uphold the constitution but instead treat it like christians treat the bibble and only take what they like from it. It is not their job to preach moral behavior but to protect our liberty the little that we still have left. Martin Luther King would be so sad to see this times. Like him i have a dream that will never be more than that.

    1. From a progressive perspective, Paul is like a really bad hamburger patty on a moldy bun but……having an amazing leaf of crunchy-crisp fresh lettuce and red tomat. There’s an acceptable but not extraordinary slice of cheese on top. Would you eat it?

      1. Better than shit on a stick, so yeah, I would eat it(despite the fact that the bun is not moldy and the meat patty is mediocre, not terrible).

        1. Yo’nonymous… that sign yer lookin at is McDonald’s burgers. Ron Paul’s is the place down the road that’s about to go bankrupt (people ain’t buyin)… :(

          1. The only reason people aren’t buying is because the media pays NO attention to him. He has consitenly polled 2nd/3rd area, yet all the candidates below him get more media attention. Remember, Dr. Paul gets more contributions from active military than ALL OTHER CANDIDATES COMBINED. THAT sends me the message people are indeed buying. The bad patty analogy works more for Obama, who is just GW reincarnated into an intelligent black man. All of his policies are exactly the same as Bush if not worse (patriot act, Iraq, Afghanistan, busting California pot growers, etc.) Remeber, Obama and all other Rep. Candidates = War and Bankrupcy and Ron Paul = Peace and Prosperity, think about it.

      2. I think a better analogy would be Paul is the responsible parent who insists his family live within its means and the other candidates including BO, are the irresponsible feel-good parent who wants to run-up the credit cards buying unneeded junk etc. so that the kids will like them.

        Dr. Paul offers the ONLY medicine that can save America and too many immature people refuse to swallow the needed medicine.

        My father used to tell me: “Mark, half the people in the United States have below average intelligence and average is not too good to begin with.” That is the obstacle we face. In a republic, the folks on the right side of the bell curve would have no influence on public policy since elected officials would be “bound by the chains of the constitution” as Thomas Jefferson so elegantly stated. The democratization of the country has led us down the road to ruin. What we need is a president to understands how good a republic is and how horrid a democracy is and Dr. Paul understand that.

        I read an analysis that showed that BO’s policies and those of his predecessor are 90% identical. All the democrate-lite candidate (those “Republicans” seeking office other than Dr. Paul) offer just more of the Bush/Obama agenda and since that agenda is the problem, it cannot be the solution.

  23. Time…..Time……Time…..Time…….Now your campaigns want me to wrap this up.
    Did Anderson Cooper have a hot date he was late for?
    That was the worst run debate I have seen this year. Again, the issue is Jobs and Cooper is asking questions about the 14th amendment and how the government can keep people out of foreclosures. WHY?
    Learn the lesson taught to Bill Clinton by James Carville, It’s the economy stupid.

  24. I want Cain to stay around until the polls open, as if that was going to happen. One of these days, the ‘boys in the smoke-filled room’ are going to realize “hey, he is blacker than you know who!”. It was bad enough to bite their tongues and put up Bonzo, but this? Not to worry, the Kochs will come up with some pocket change – a couple of million will double Cain’s personal fortune and send Cain packing. The new problem? Which Mormon to back. Uh oh. I smell trouble and I am loving it.

  25. I really hope somebody pukes or falls out or forgets to zip their fly. I’m running out of snark for my recaps. Too many damn debates!

    1. LOL Kira! My thoughts exactly! Too many debates and we have a year to go yet! I feel we need a completely new debate format, something out of the box- Erick Erickson at RedState has asked for them to sit down with him and really get down to some honest questions without the media theater and nonsense we have seen every time so far. I believe the candidates are afraid to face the tough questions with maybe the exception of Herman Cain who was masterful in avoiding the gotcha questions from David Gregory last weekend. Newt can handle anything thrown at him too. I,d like to see Newt be the moderator asking the questions just one time.

      Maybe some mini-debates with say two or three candidates at a time and mix the participants up, ANYTHING but the same old stuff we have seen already! Maybe a GOP tag-team match like the old days of wrestling, “In this corner we have Newt and the Hurri-Cain taking on MIttens the Moderate and Huntsman the Democrat. Ding! Ding!

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