Round ‘Em Up! They’re Illegal!

No, No, No silly. Not the Illegal aliens. The ones grazing on grass.

We have all been hearing about Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy who has been fighting the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) for almost 20 years now. He feels that because his family settled the land in the early 19th century and has been using it since then, he has the right to ignore court orders, many court orders, and just keep the cattle there.

Bundy sights the bogus claim that a “federally protected” desert tortoise started all this back in 1993. As of late, I understand these tortoises are, in fact, not in danger and that the cattle in a “step” test didn’t step on one of them when the tortoise and the cattle where released in a small area.

Eventually, Bundy also decided, because the property rights belonged to his family (and other technical issues), that he would stop paying grazing fees to the government. Try not paying your taxes for a few years and see what happens.

The government claims it has cost them plenty to take this issue to court and get the judgments against Bundy. They also claim there has been damage to property by his cattle that trespassed and grazed on federal land.

Many cattle ranchers pay grazing fees. Why doesn’t Bundy?

Let’s be clear. I am not in agreement with the way the government is handling this issue and the amount of force used by the BLM. But we conservatives keep screaming we are a “nation of laws.” Do we only do that when it’s convenient? We get mad when the government and others don’t follow the law. We take up the pitch forks and torches and set off to right the wrong.

Mr. Bundy has had support from all over the country. Many have come running to his aid to fight the big bad government. Good for them! But wait!

Mr. Bundy has already lost this case several times in a court of law. He has, several times, been told to keep his cattle off government land, yet they continued to cross over from his property to theirs. Why didn’t he put up a fence to protect his cattle? It may have stopped a lot of unnecessary aggravation and cost.

Why did he stop paying grazing fees to the tune of over 1 million dollars that over 1600 other ranchers pay? Is he special? Did his family get special dispensation from Thomas Jefferson or Washington?

We can’t have it both ways and those of you “running” to protect him, be careful. Rather than spending money help him on-site, the people running out to help and the 1600 other ranchers should pool their money and sue the government? Take them on and push back! Fight it from within the law. Make sure you do everything right and then go after them.

And to you Mr. Government… SWAT teams? Really? Two hundred armed BLM agents! My God, if we could only get those agents on the borders. Wouldn’t it be great if, instead of you trying to stop cattle from grazing on public land, you used those same armed BLM agents to keep legal, taxpaying, land-owning American citizens safe on their own property rather than being trespassed and violated by illegal immigrants? Wouldn’t it be great if you upheld and protected Americans at our borders with those same laws you are trying to use against Bundy?

To the 200+ “Bundy Cowboys,” just your presence caused the government to stop and think about what a disaster this could be. The Feds stood down and made arrangements to return the cattle.
Read more at https://therealside.com/2014/04/round-em-up-theyre-illegal/#QJhUuEtkq90L62EZ.99

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Joe Messina

Joe is a no-nonsense, conservative realist. He is not interested in “what if?” or “we could have!” He is interested in hearing both sides and has no problem taking on taboo issues with real questions looking for real answers. Racism, religion, and politics are all open season for topics, and he’s happy to offer up his opinion in the process! Joe is an engaging speaker mixing a healthy dose of sarcasm with the cold, hard facts, interacting with the audience, taking questions, and often playing “devil’s advocate”… just to make you to think! Actively engaged in community, church, and politics for well over a decade, Joe enjoys the reputation of being a man of integrity and ethics. He has had several successful businesses and held several executive positions with various Fortune 1000 companies. He is often sought after to teach classes his “black and white breakdown” of business ethics. If you like to “stir the pot” a little and you don’t want to hear any more political correctness, Joe is your guy! Just name a topic… politics, religion, racism, or most any current event. Joe can be heard daily across the airwaves and over the internet on several stations.

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  1. You misrepresent the facts, sir. It might well have been Obama or one of his stooges who wrote the article. In fact, it appears that it was indeed one of his stooges who wrote the piece.

    1. I dont know where your IQ level is at sir and basic comprehension. HOWEVER with that said Ill try one last time. If you are upset that Obama doesnt follow court orders and laws, Then you need to be understand that the rancher needs to follow as well BUT AGAIN, the way the government is handling this is WAY over the top. Ill give you a whiel to digest.

      1. I agree with you 100%. My reply was to the writer of the article. Your response was not even visible to me. CDI is playing tricks on it’s readers. So we know whose side CDI is on.

          1. Unfortunately, CDI is not showing the article in question. The only thing in question now is my IQ. We’ll let it go at that. As for CDI, you just attempted to change my home page to your website. That’s a definite no no.

  2. Joe Messina certainly has a right to his opinion about the Bundy’s fight for the land they have used for the last 140 yrs, and I have no idea why Mr. Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees. And even so, why is the BLM involved. Do the fees go to the BLM? It seems he has some dispute on who he really owes the fees to. He says he will pay the fees to Clark County Nev., not the BlM. I have little or no opinion on whom or who he owes the fees to.

    What we have here is much bigger issue than a turtle or the Bundy grazing fees. What we have here is an overreach by the federal govt. to ruin small business to promote their political agenda.It’s happening all over the country. People came from all over the country,some armed, to see this didn’t happen. The BLM backed down. This land grab effects all Americans, not just the Bundy’s.
    Isn’t it also interesting that the BLM attempted the cover-up of Sen. Reid/Chinese gov’t takeover of ranch for solar farm That’s why the BLM was rounding up the cattle for removal from the land. A contract which would make Reid’s son a rich man.


    1. Oscar, I usually dont reply to these but as I stated below. We need to fight back on these things the Gov is over the top. But we also need to follow the law if we want Obama to.

  3. Well, Joe, I can’t let you stay out in the arid Nevada desert by yourself….We are a Nation of Law and I’ve found none that is tagged “follow only if you agree”. LAW is the saving grace that makes our Nation exceptional…and keeps us from chaos.

    I certainly have a combination of admiration & sympathy for Bundy and other ranchers. I am comforted by their determination to maintain our freedom from an over reaching government….Yet, troubled at the ‘mob mentality’ it created…I fear many in BLM actually ‘hoped’ it would escalate into a physical display…..This administration has us sitting on the proverbial powder keg…If it explodes Syria will look like a walk in the park…

    The LAW is the LAW, the rest of the known ‘facts’ vary from story to story. When all are combined it strongly indicates that he (Bundy) was not in compliance and that is his choice and an understandable one…It seems he paid user fees to Clark County (who hold the deed) and it was when he was required to pay BLM with only 20% going to County that he rebelled.

    There are a number of conservative, small government candidates that ‘want’ to go to DC & make a difference. These candidates are on the whole under funded and would be grateful for support….putting them in office is the way we can stop this insanity. There are an abundance of Harry Reids out there just waiting their turn..IF we let them.

    Laws are for all Americans & even sorta ones like Obama…let’s use a full court press & use them to OUR advantage…

    PS Joe I read the entire article, including the by line : )

  4. I am utterly amazed…

    I read thru the comments after reading the article and there wasn’t one SINGLE mention of THE law of the land. THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND!!!

    I’m sorry, Joe. I agree with you in principle but in reality it is the government that has been breaking the LAW! Not the Bundys.

    Show me, (ANY OF YOU!!), in the Constitution, WHERE the Federal Government has the authority to own any land except that which is being used for the enforcement of the First Principles as stated in the Declaration of Independence? And the Capitol Property that is DC. Show me. Show me where in the Constitution, THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, that the Federal Government has the Authority to establish the BLM! Or any of the Alphabet Soup Administrative Bureaucracy that makes up 80% of our Government; A representative government that WE the PEOPLE have no representation IN! When was the last time YOU voted for the head of the BLM? I know I never have!!!

    There is a phrase in Article VI, Clause 2 of the Constitution; “…made in pursuance thereof…”. This Clause is sometimes called the Supremacy Clause and it is twisted, folded, bent, spindled, and mutilated into saying the laws of the United States are the Supreme Law of the land – but THAT is NOT so. Only the Constitution and the laws and treaties of the United States that are “MADE IN PURSUNCE THEREOF;” this Constitution is the Supreme law of the land. This Clause further states that all judges in every state are bound to administer justice with these laws, yet “…any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwith-standing”!!! EVEN Amendments added to this Constitution that are not made in pursuance thereof or that are Contrary to this Constitution ARE TO BE IGNORED BY THE JUSTICES OF EVERY STATE!! THAT means the IRS and the 16 Amendment, which ARE indeed contrary in so many ways to the Constitution AND our First Principles as stated in the Declaration of Independence!

    Bundy probably does owe money to the County. But he does NOT owe it to the BLM! Bundy is doing exactly what ALL of us should be doing to this OWTLAW government – Nullification! We are not going to obey unlawful laws!!

    And in all of that I have not mentioned how the Federal Government was to turn the BLM lands over to the States LONG AGO. The Same treaty signed by the States of North and South Dakota with the Feds was signed by many of the Western States. The Dakotas HAVE their formerly Federal lands but not the rest of the western States! NOT Nevada! If you look at map of BLM land there is almost NONE east of the line along the borders of Montana and the Dakotas yet the States West of that line are covered with BLM lands. These lands belong to the various states and they are being denied the resources and property taxes of those lands BECAUSE the Federal Government refuses to honor its treaty.

    WHO is breaking the LAW here?

    Yes we are a nation of laws and we should all obey and uphold lawful laws made in accordance to our Constitution. BUT for the very reason that we must uphold these laws and the Constitution we must also put down unlawful laws made and enforce by our out-of-control Administrative Bureaucratic GOVERMENT.

    My final thought;

    “WE the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union…” do hereby grant the Government of the United States the authority to govern Us, we the people, by this CONTRACT, this Constitution! HAS the Federal Government HONORED this Contract? Does it NOW honor it?

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