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MSNBC: Dang! Romney Right Again

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Did you watch the last presidential debate? The number crunchers expect fewer did because of the baseball final and Monday Night Football. Those who did watch it generally reported a rather ho-hum evening. No knock out punches on either side (to the chagrin or relief of each side).

But today the fact checkers are out in force. It appears that most of the mis-statements were made by the president. Here are a few facts that Team Obama’s personal television channel has had to admit.

Check 1: Did Mitt Romney support the auto bailout?

Obama: The — look, I think anybody out there can check the record. Governor Romney, you keep on trying to, you know, airbrush history here. You were very clear that you would not provide government assistance to the U.S. auto companies even if they went through bankruptcy. You said that they could get it in the private marketplace. That wasn’t true.

MSNBC Lori Robertson: “Romney was right. Obama was wrong.”

Check 2: Obama Tried To Deny That He Proposed A Status Of Forces Agreement That Would Have Left Thousands Of Troops In Iraq.

ROMNEY: “You didn’t want a status of forces agreement?”

OBAMA: “What I would not have done is left 10,000 troops in Iraq that would tie us down. That certainly would not help us in the Middle East.”

ROMNEY: “I’m sorry. You actually — there was an effort on the part of the president to have a status of forces against, and I concurred in that and said we should have a number of troops that stayed on. That was something I concurred with. That was your posture and mine as well. You thought it should have been 5,000 troops and I thought it should have been more troops.”

OBAMA: “Governor, this was done a few weeks ago. A few weeks ago you indicated we should still have troops in Iraq.”

ROMNEY: “No, I didn’t. Sorry, I indicated that you failed to put in place a status of forces agreement at the end of the conflict that existed.”

The Status of Forces Agreement signed between the United States and Iraq in 2008 called for U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraqi cities by 2009 and be out of the country entirely by the end of 2011.

NBC’s Andrea Mitchell: “So Governor Romney is right, that the administration has tried and failed to get an agreement called Status of Forces Agreement that, in fact, would have allowed a small force of troops to remain for several years in Iraq.”

Check 3: Did the MA tuition free college programs start under Romney?

ROMNEY: Said that when he was Massachusetts governor, high-school students who graduated in the top quarter “got a four-year, tuition-free ride at any Massachusetts public institution of higher learning.”

OBAMA: “That happened before you came into office.”

ROMNEY: “That was actually mine, actually, Mr. President. You got that fact wrong.”

 MSNBC: THE FACTS: Romney was right. The John and Abigail Adams scholarship program began in 2004 when he was governor.
There are more. Share them with your undecided voting friends. Fact Checking Obama. You can check on the liberal websites but you’ll have to do a little more digging…
And if you want to watch the whole debate again here it is: C-SPAN

A Fact Check of Washington Post’s Fact Check of Netanyahu .. or something

The Washington Post published a fact check piece attempting to discredit Benjamin Netanyahu’s statements before a joint session of Congress by brushing over them with the stain of “world opinion”. We fact-checked their fact-checking and found it .. lacking.

As all left-leaning media will do, WaPo’s writer spent the entire article using European leftist “we know better for you than you do” innuendo to create a false moral equivalence between the Israelis and the Hamas and Fatah- led Palestinians.

NETANYAHU: “You don’t need to send American troops to Israel. We defend ourselves.”

THE FACTS [According to WaPo]: Israel is a leading recipient of American foreign aid, including more than $1 billion in military assistance each year.

The real facts:

In the quote the author used is the truth. Netanyahu said that no American troops were needed in Israel. Turning around and saying that giving money and putting boots on the ground are the same thing is not only dishonest, but an insult to the fine men and women of the United States and Israeli armed forces.

NETANYAHU: “In Judea and Samaria, the Jewish people are not foreign occupiers. We are not the British in India. We are not the Belgians in the Congo.”

THE FACTS [According to WaPo]: While the West Bank, or Judea and Samaria, is promised to the Jewish people in the Bible, the international community considers the West Bank occupied territory.

The real facts: The international community does not have the right to revise 4,000 years of Jewish history and change the status of the Jewish homeland on a whim. As Egypt, Syria and Jordan created the situation out of which the 1967 lines appeared, perhaps Jordan should be asked to give up some of it’s land to the Palestinian state. Anyone that references the U.N., E.U, World Bank and I.M.F. (aka “the international community”) as sources of morality and decency has moral compass issues.

NETANYAHU: “You don’t need to export democracy to Israel. We’ve already got it.”

THE FACTS [According to WaPo]: Israel does give its Arab minority full civil rights, including participation in elections. But Israeli Arabs suffer from systematic discrimination in housing and the workplace. Also, more than 2 million Palestinians living in the West Bank do not have Israeli citizenship and therefore cannot vote in Israeli elections.

The real facts: Also a quote from the very same speech, “..of those 300 million arabs, less than one half of one percent are truly free – and they are all Isreali citizens”. Of course the Washington Post glosses over those references. Missing the point that Israel is the home of more free Arabs than any other country, the writer simply says – that’s not all that great.

Oh and the farthest reach of all. Here the writer tries to clean up Hamas’ image by twisting Netanyahu’s words then disproving the false message. All too typical lefty-styled “build a straw man and take it down”.

NETANYAHU: “Israel will not negotiate with a Palestinian government backed by the Palestinian version of al-Qaida.”

THE FACTS[According to WaPo]: While Hamas and al-Qaida have killed hundreds of people in religious holy wars, they have no connection, and Hamas has in fact come under criticism from the global terror network for being too moderate. Al-Qaida preaches global jihad. Hamas says its struggle is solely against Israel, not the West at large. In its Gaza stronghold, Hamas has violently clashed with smaller armed groups that claim inspiration from al-Qaida.

This is the second time the post’s creator opts to disprove something that Netanyahu didn’t say. The prime minister made the claim that Hamas is the Palestinian version of Al-Qaida. He never said that they were related or part of that terrorist organization. It’s clear that Netanyahu was labelling Hamas a terrorist organization – one that is bent on genocide – one that acts and works much like Osama bin Laden’s group.