NRA Publishes List of Gun Control Advocates
Unions, celebrities, advocacy groups, writers and newspapers all made the list.
After the Journal News published the names and addresses of more than 33,000 legal handgun permit holders, making families, homes and neighborhoods vulnerable to theft and assault, the National Rifle Association decided to hit back. If the intent of the newspaper was to shame those with gun permits living in their community, the NRA has upped the game by publishing the names of gun control advocates all over the country. Many of the names on the list are companies, organizations and individuals that are guarded by armed security.
Here’s the list.
AARP
AFL-CIO
Ambulatory Pediatric Association
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Civil Liberties Union
American Academy of Ambulatory Care Nursing
American Medical Women`s Association
American Medical Student Association
American Medical Association
American Association for the Surgery of Trauma
American Trauma Society
American Federation of Teachers
American Association of School Administrators
American Alliance for Rights and Responsibilities
American Medical Association
American Bar Association
American Counseling Association
American Academy of Child & Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Association for World Health
American Ethical Union
American Nurses Association
American Association of Neurological Surgeons
American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences
American Firearms Association
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Jewish Committee
American Trauma Society
American Psychological Association
American Jewish Congress
American Public Health Association
Americans for Democratic Action
Anti-Defamation League
Black Mental Health Alliance
B`nai B`rith
Central Conference of American Rabbis
Children`s Defense Fund
Church of the Brethren
Coalition for Peace Action
Coalition to Stop Gun Violence
College Democrats of America
Committee for the Study of Handgun Misuse & World Peace
Common Cause
Congress of National Black Churches, Inc.
Congress of Neurological Surgeons
Consumer Federation of America
Council of the Great City Schools
Council of Chief State School Officers
Dehere Foundation
Disarm Educational Fund
Environmental Action Foundation
Episcopal Church-Washington Office
Florence and John Shumann Foundation
Friends Committee on National Legislation
General Federation of Women`s Clubs
George Gund Fun
Gray Panthers
H.M. Strong Foundation
Hadassah
Harris Foundation
Hechinger Foundation
Interfaith Neighbors
Int`l Ladies` Garment Workers` Union
Int`l Association of Educators for World Peace
Jewish Labor Committee
Joyce Foundation
Lauder Foundation
Lawrence Foundation
League of Women Voters of the United States*
Lutheran Office for Governmental Affairs, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
Manhattan Project II
Mennonite Central Committee-Washington Office
National Safe Kids Campaign
National Association of Police Organizations
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Black Nurses` Association
National Association of Chain Drug Stores
National Network for Youth
National Assembly of National Voluntary Health & Social Welfare Organizations
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
National Association of School Psychologists
National Association of Counties*
National Association of Pediatric Nurse Associates & Practitioners
National Association of School Safety and Law Enforcement Officers
National Education Association
National Association of Elementary School Principals*
National Association of Public Hospitals
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
National Association of Secondary School Principals
National Association of Social Workers
National Association of Children`s Hospitals and Related Institutions
National Association of School Psychologists
National Council of La Raza
National Center to Rehabilitate Violent Youth
National Commission for Economic Conversion & Disarmament
National Council of the Churches of Christ in the USA
National Council of Negro Women
National Association of Community Health Centers
National People`s Action
National Education Association*
National League of Cities
National Council on Family Relations
National Council of Jewish Women
National Organization for Women
National Political Congress of Black Women
National Parks and Conservation Association
National Peace Foundation
National Urban League, Inc.
National Parent, Teachers Association*
National Urban Coalition
National SAFE KIDS Campaign
National Organization on Disability
National Spinal Cord Injury Association
NETWORK: A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby
Ortenberg Foundation
Peace Action
People for the American Way
Physicians for Social Responsibility
Police Foundation
Project on Demilitarization and Democracy
Public Citizen
SaferWorld
Society of Critical Care Medicine
Southern Christian Leadership Conference
The Council of the Great City Schools
The Synergetic Society
20/20 Vision
U.S. Catholic Conference, Dept. of Social Development
Union of American Hebrew Congregations
Unitarian Universalist Association
United States Catholic Conference
United Methodist Church, General Board & Church Society
United Church of Christ, Office for Church in Society*
United States Conference of Mayors
War and Peace Foundation
Women Strike for Peace
Women`s National Democratic Club
Women`s Action for New Directions (WAND)
Women`s Int`l League for Peace and Freedom
World Spiritual Assembly, Inc.
YWCA of the U.S.A.
*The national organization only endorses federal legislation.
Krista Allen – Actress
Suzy Amis – Actress
Louis Anderson – Comedian
Richard Dean Anderson – Actor
Maya Angelou – Poet
David Arquette – Actor
Ed Asner – Actor
Alec Baldwin – Actor
Bob Barker – TV Personality
Carol Bayer Sager – Composer
Drew Barrymore – Actress
Kevin Bacon – Actor
Lauren Bacall – Actress*
Sarah Ban Breathnach – Writer
William Baldwin – Actor
Candice Bergen – Actress
Richard Belzer – Actor
Tony Bennett – Singer
Boys II Men – Pop Group
Jon Bon Jovi – Singer
Peter Bogdonovich – Director
Peter Bonerz – Actor
Albert Brooks – Actor
Beau Bridges – Actor
Benjamin Bratt – Actor
Bonnie Bruckheimer – Movie Producer
Christie Brinkley – Model
Dr. Joyce Brothers – Psychologist/Author
James Brolin – Actor
James Brooks – TV Producer
Mel Brooks – Actor/Director
Betty Buckley – Actress
Ellen Burstyn – Actress
Steve Buscemi – Actor
David Canary – Actor
Kate Capshaw – Actress
Kim Cattrall- Actress
Josh Charles – Actor
Robert Chartloff – Producer
Stockard Channing – Actress
Jill Clayburgh – Actress
Terri Clark – Singer
George Clooney – Actor
Jackie Cooper – Actor/Director*
Jennifer Connelly – Actress
Judy Collins – Singer
Kevin Costner – Actor
Sean Connery – Actor
Sheryl Crow – Singer
Billy Crystal- Actor
Julie Cypher – Director
Arlene Dahl – Actress
Clive Davis – Writer
Linda Dano – Actress
Matt Damon – Actor
Pam Dawber – Actress
Patrika Darbo – Actress
Stuart Damon – Actor
Ellen Degeneres – Actress
Gavin de Becker – Writer
Rebecca DeMornay – Actress
Danny DeVito – Actor
Michael Douglas – Actor
Phil Donahue – Talk Show Host
Richard Donner – Director
Fran Drescher – Actress
Richard Dreyfus – Actor
David Duchovny – Actor
Sandy Duncan – Actress
Christine Ebersole – Actress
Kenneth “Babyface” Edmonds – Singer
Missy Elliott – Singer
Nora Ephron – Director
Gloria Estefan – Singer
Melissa Etheridge – Singer
Mia Farrow – Actress
Mike Farrell – Actor
Carrie Fisher – Actress
Sally Field – Actress
Doug Flutie – NFL player
Fannie Flagg – Actress
Jane Fonda – Actress
Jodie Foster – Actress
Rick Fox – NBA Player
Andy Garcia – Actor
Art Garfunkel – Singer
Geraldo – TV personality
Richard Gere – Actor
Kathie Lee Gifford – TV personality
Paul Glaser – TV director
Brad Gooch – Writer
Elliott Gould – Actor
Louis Gossett, Jr. – Actor
Michael Gross – Actor
Nancy Lee Grahn – Actress
Bryant Gumbel – TV Personality
Deidra Hall – Actress
Ethan Hawke – Actor
Mariette Hartley – Actress
Mark Harmon – Actor
Anne Heche – Actress
Howard Hessman – Actor
Marilu Henner – Actress
Dustin Hoffman – Actor
Hal Holbrook – Actor*
Helen Hunt – Actress
Grace-Lynne Ingle – Actress
John Ingle – Actor
Francesca James – TV Producer
Norman Jewison – Director
Lainie Kazan – Actress
Richard Karn – Actor
Jeffrey Katzenberg – Producer
Barry Kemp – TV Producer
David E. Kelley – TV Producer
Diane Keaton – Actress
Margaret Kemp – Interior Designer
Chaka Khan – Singer
Coreta Scott King – Activist
Kevin Kline – Actor
Michael E. Knight – Actor
Jonathan Kozol – Writer
William Kovacs – Director
Lenny Kravits – Singer
Lisa Kudrow – Actress
Wally Kurth – Actor
Christine Lahti – Actress
k.d. lang – Singer
Ricki Lake – TV personality
Denis Leary – Actor
John Leguizamo – Actor
Norman Lear – TV Producer
Spike Lee – Director
Hal Linden – Actor
Lisa Linde – Actress
Tara Lipinski – Former Olympian
Keyshawn Johnson – NFL player
Rob Lowe – Actor
Amanda Marshall – Singer
Barry Manilow – Singer
Camryn Manheim – Actress
Howie Mandel – Actor
Kyle MacLachlan – Actor
Madonna – Singer
Marla Maples – Actress
Marsha Mason – Actress*
Mase – Singer
Penny Marshall – Director
Prema Mathai-Davis – YWCA Official
John McDaniel – Musician
John McEnroe – Athlete
Brian McKnight – Musician
Natalie Merchant – Singer
Bette Midler – Singer
Shane Minor – Musician
Mary Tyler Moore – Actress
Michael Moore – Film Maker
Norval Morris – Law Professor
Mike Myers – Actor
N Sync – Music group
Kathy Najimy – Actress
Jack Nicholson – Actor
Leonard Nimoy – Actor
Mike Nichols – Director
Stephen Nichols – Actor
Rosie O`Donnel l- Actress/Talk Show Host
Jennifer O Neill – Actress
Julia Ormond – Actress
Jane Pauley – TV Personality
Sarah Jessica Parker – Actress
Mandy Patinkin – Actor
Richard North Patterson – Writer
Rhea Perlman- Actress
Michelle Pfieffer – Actress
Sydney Pollack – Director
Aidan Quinn – Actor
Colin Quinn – Actor
Dennis Quaid – Actor
Elizabeth Bracco Quinn – Actress
Bonnie Raitt – Singer
Debbie Reynolds – Actress
Mary Lou Retton – Former Olympian
Paul Reiser – Actor
Peter Reckell – Actor
Rob Reiner – Actor/Director
Robert Redford – Actor/Director
Anne Rice – Writer
Cathy Rigby – Actress
Julia Roberts – Actress
Marc Rosen – TV Producer
Tim Robbins – Actor
Tim Roth – Actor
Renee Russo – Actress
Robin Ruzan – Wife of Mike Myers
Meg Ryan – Actress
Susan Sarandon – Actress
Jerry Seinfeld – Actor
Kyra Sedgwick – Actress
Martin Sheen – Actor
Russell Simmons – Record Producer
Neil Simon – Playwright*
Louise Sorel – Actress
Mira Sorvino – Actress
Rena Sofer – Actress
Britney Spears – Singer
Bruce Springsteen – Singer
Kevin Spirtas – Actor
Barbra Streisand – Singer
David Steinberg – Director
Sylvester Stallone – Actor
Harry Dean Stanton – Actor
Meryl Streep – Actress
Patrick Stewart – Actor
Sharon Stone – Actress
Sting – Singer
Trudie Styler – Actress
Jonathan Taylor Thomas – Actor
The Temptations – Pop Group
Vinny Testaverde – NFL player
Marlo Thomas – Actress*
Uma Thurman – Actress
Steve Tisch – Producer
Mike Torrez – Former Baseball player
Shania Twain – Singer
Dick Van Dyke – Actor
Eli Wallach – Actor*
Ruth Warrick – Actress
Harvey Weinstein – Producer
Jann Wenner – Publisher
Sigourney Weaver – Actress
Victor Webster – Actor
James Whitmore – Actor*
Andy Williams – Singer*
Kelli Williams – Actress
Henry Winkler – Actor
Oprah Winfrey – Entertainer
Rita Wilson – Actress
Vanessa Williams – Singer
Herman Wouk – Author
Joanne Woodward – Actress*
Peter Yarrow – Singer
Catherine Zeta-Jones – Actress
Ahmet Zappa -Actor
Diva Zappa -Actress
Dweezil Zappa – Musician
Gail Zappa –
Moon Zappa -Actress
* Membership on the Brady Campaign`s National Committee
Joel J. Alpert M.D. – Pediatrician
Robert Bernstein Ph.D – Pediatrician
Robert E. Brennan – Financier
Bishop Edmond Browning – Espiscopal Leader
James E. Carter – Former President
Marion Wright Edelman – Director, Childrens Defense Fund
Michael Eisner, Former Chairman and CEO The Walt Disney Company
Ahmet Ertegun – Music Producer
Amitai Etzioni – Teacher
Tom Freston – MTV President
Dr. Lorraine E. Hale – Social Worker
Della M. Hughes – Activist
Ed Koch – Former Politician
C. Everett Koop – Former Surgeon General
Rev. Wallace Ryan Kuroiwa – Clergyman
Davis S. Liederman – Ex. Dir. Child Welfare League
Paul Rabbi Menitaff – Clergyman
Abner Mikva – Former Judge
Richard Parsons – Pres. Time Warner
Steven Rockefeller – Financier
Ellen Y. Rosenberg – Activist
Rabbi David Saperstein – Clergyman
Herb Scannel – Pres. Nickelodeon
Vincent Schiraldi – Dir. Justice Policy Institute
Lyle Elmer Strom – Federal Judge
Joe Volk – Clergyman
Rabbi Eric H. Yoffie – Clergyman
Steve Benson – Cartoonist
Tony Auth – Cartoonist
Jim Borgman – Cartoonist
Jimmy Breslin – Columnist
Stuart Carlson – Cartoonist
Marie Cocco – Columnist
E.J. Dionne Jr. – Columnist
Bonnie Erbe – Columnist
Tom Fiedler – Columnist
Michael Gartner – Columnist
Mark Genrich – Columnist
James Glassman – Editor
Bob Herbert – Columnist
Bill Johnson – Columnist
Donald Kaul – Columnist
Mike Lane – Cartoonist
Leonard Larson – Columnist
Mike Luckovich – Cartoonist
Jimmy Margulies – Cartoonist
Deborah Mathis – Columnist
Colman McCarthy – Columnist
Jim Morin – Cartoonist
Tom Oliphant- Columnist
Mike Peters – Cartoonist
Robert Reno – Columnist
Frank Rich – Columnist
Cindy Richards – Columnist
Kevin Siers- Cartoonist
Ed Stein – Cartoonist
Tom Teepen – Editor
Tim Toles – Cartoonist
Garry Trudeau – Cartoonist
Cynthia Tucker – Columnist
Steve Twomey – Columnist
Steve Villano – Columnist
Adrienne Washington – Columnist
Don Wright – Cartoonist
A & M Records
Al Cafaro, Chrm. & CEO
595 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10022
(212) 826-0477
www.amrecords.com
Record Production, Entertainment
American Century Companies
James E. Stowers, CEO
4500 Main St., 4th Floor
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 531-5575
www.americancentury.com
Mutual Fund & Stock Investment Company on NYSE
American Multi Cinemas Entertainment, Inc.
Stanley H. Durwood, Co-Chairman, CEO Peter C. Brown, President, CFO
106 West 14th Street, #1700
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 221-4000
www.amctheaters.com
Movie Theater Company
Argosy Casino
H. Steven Norton, President, CEO
777 N.W. Argosy Parkway
Riverside, MO 64150
(816) 746-7711
www.argosycasinos.com/
Gambling Casino Company
Ben & Jerry`s Homemade, Inc.
Bennett R. Cohen Chrm. & CEO
Rte. 100, Box 240
Waterbury, VT 05676
(802) 244-5641
www.benjerry.com
Ice cream and frozen yogurt
BJC Health Systems
Fred L. Brown, President & CEO
4444 Forest Park Ave.
St. Louis, MO 63108
(314) 747-9322
www.bjc.org/
Healthcare Company
Blue Cross Blue Shield – Kansas City
John P. Mascotte, President
P.O. Box 419169
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 395-2222
Healthcare Company
Brooks Investments-Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks
45 Chesterfield Lakes Road
Chesterfield, MO 63005
Investment Company
Carter Hawley Hale Stores, Inc.
Philip M. Hawley, Chrm. & CEO
444 South Flower Street
Los Angeles, CA 90071
(213) 620-0150
Retail clothing and accessories stores
Crown Central Petroleum Corp.
Henry A. Rosenberg, Jr.
One North Central Street Box 1168
Baltimore, MD 21203
(301) 539-7400
Refiners and marketers of petroleum products, convenience stores
Development Specialists – Chicago
70 W. Madison Street, #2300
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 263-4141
Earthgrains – St. Louis
8400 Maryland Ave.
St. Louis, MO 63105
(314) 259-7000
www.ironkids.com/Pages/Earthgrains.html
National Bread Company
General American – St. Louis
Richard A. Liddy, CEO
P.O. Box 396
St. Louis, MO 63166
(314) 843-8700
www.genam.com
Life Insurance
Hallmark Cards
Irvine O. Hockaday, President & CEO
P.O. Box 418307
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 274-5111
www.hallmark.com
Greeting Card Company
Health Midwest
2316 East Meyer Boulevard
Kansas City, MO 64132
(816) 751-3000
www.healthmidwest.org
National Healthcare Company
ICN Biomedicals
Adam Jerney, Chrm. & CEO
3300 Hyland Avenue
Costa Mesa, CA 92626
(714) 545-0113
www.icnbiomed.com
Pharmaceutical products
James B. Nutter Co. – Kansas City
James B. Nutter
4153 Broadway
Kansas City, MO 64111
(816) 531-2345
Investment Banker
Kansas City Chiefs
One Arrowhead Drive
Kansas City, MO 64129
(816) 924-9300
www.kcchiefs.com
Pro Football Team
Kansas City Royals
David Glass, CEO
P.O. Box 419969
Kansas City, MO 64141
(816) 921-8000
www.kcroyals.com
Pro Baseball Team
Kenneth Cole
152 W. 57th Street
New York, NY 10019
(800) 536-2653
www.kennethcole.com
Clothing retailer
Lamar Advertising Company
Lamar Outdoor Advertising
5551 Corporate Boulevard, Suite 2-A
Baton Rouge, LA 70808
P. O. Box 66338
Baton Rouge, LA 70896
(225) 926-1000
Fax (225) 926-1005
www.lamar.com
Levi Strauss & Co.
Robert D. Haas, Chairman
Philip Marineau, CEO
Peter A. Jacobi, President and COO
1155 Battery St.
San Francisco, CA 94111
(415) 501-6000
FAX (415) 501-3939
www.levistrauss.com
Clothing
Mallinckrodt, Inc. – St. Louis
C. Ray Holman, President & CEO
675 McDonnell Blvd, Box 5840
St. Louis, MO 63134
(314) 654-2000
www.mallinckrodt.com
Clothing Starch Company
Michael Douglas Foundation
3550 Wilshire
Los Angele, CA 90010
MNC Financial, Inc.
Ten Light Street Box 987
Baltimore, MD 21203
(301) 244-5000
Banking, financial services
Sara Lee Corporation
Sara Lee Foundation
Three First National Plaza
Chicago, IL 60602-4260
Phone: 312-726-2600
www.saralee.com
Fax: 312-726-3712
Silver Dollar City
Peter Herschend
One Corporate Drive
Branson, MO 65616
800 475-9370
www.silverdollarcity.com
Amusement Parks
Site Oil Company – St. Louis
Alvin J. Siteman, President
50 S. Bemiston
St. Louis, MO 63105
(314) 725-4321
Oil Company
Southland Corporation
Masatoshi Ito, Chrm.
2711 North Haskell Avenue
Dallas, TX 75221
www.7-eleven.com
Convenience stores
Southwestern Bell Telephone- St. Louis
One Bell Center
St. Louis, MO 63101
(314) 235-9800
www.swbell.com
Telecommunications Firm
Sport & Health, Inc.
Don Konz, CEO
1800 Old Meadow Rd.
McLean, Virginia 22102
(703) 556-6556
www.sportandhealth.com
Health clubs and fitness centers
Sprint Corp PAC
Westwood, KS 66205
913 624-3000
www.sprint.com
Telecommunicaitons Firm
SSM Health System – St. Louis
477 N. Lindbergh
St. Louis, MO 63141
(314) 994-7800
Healthcare Company
St. Louis Rams
One Rams Way
Earth City, MO 63045
(314) 982-7267
www.stlouisrams.com
Pro Football Team
St. Louis University
Rev. Lawrence Biondi, President
221 N. Grand Blvd.
St. Louis, MO 63103
(314) 977-2222
www.slu.edu
Private Catholic University
Stoneyfield Farms Yogurt
Mr. Gary Hirshberg, CEO
10 Burton Drive
Londonderry, NH 03053
(603) 437-7594
Yogurt
Sverdrup Corp.
Richard E. Beumer,
Chairman & CEO
13723 Riverport Drive
Maryland Heights, MO 63043
(314) 436-7600
www.sverdrup.com
Engineering Firm
Time Warner Inc.
Gerald M. Levin, Chrm. & CEO
75 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10019
(212) 484-8000
www.pathfinder.com/corp/
Publishing, film and music recordings
TMP Worldwide/Monster.Com
Andrew McKelvey, CEO
1633 Broadway, 33rd Fl.
New York, NY 10019
Phone: 212-977-4200
Fax: 212-956-2142
www.tmpw.com
www.monster.com
online employment service
Unity Health – St. Louis
1650 Des Peres Road #301
St. Louis, MO 63131
(314) 909-3300
www.smhs.com/unityheath.html
Healthcare Company
Working Assets
Peter Barnes, Founder
701 Montgomery Street
San Francisco, California 94111
(415) 788-0777
www.workingassets.com
Capital Cities/ABC
Television Network
77 W. 66th Street
New York, NY 10023-6298
(212) 456-7777
Bell Atlantic-D.C.
2055 L Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20036
(202) 392-9900
Blue Chip Stamps
15801 S. Eastern Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90040
(213) 720-4600
The Christian Publishing Society
The Christian Science Monitor
One Norway Street
Boston, MA 02115
(508) 586-6200
Columbia Broadcasting Service
CBS Television Network
51 W. 52nd Street
New York, NY 10019
(212) 975-4321
Corporation For Public Broadcasting/ PBS Television
1320 Braddock Place
Alexandria, VA 22314-1698
(703) 739-5000
(703) 739-0775 – Fax
Cox Newspapers
Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Credibank Towers, Suite 400
2800 Biscayne Blvd.
Miami, FL 33137
(305) 576-7678
Gannett News Service
USA Today
1000 Wilson Blvd.
Arlington, VA 22229
(703) 276-5806
Johnson Publishing Company, Inc.
Ebony Magazine
820 S. Michigan avenue
Chicago, IL 60605-2190
(312) 322-9250
Knight-Ridder Newspapers
Detroit Free-Press
321 W. LaFayette Blvd.
Detroit, MI 48231
(313) 222-6400
Miami Herald
One Herald Plaza
Miami, FL 33132-1683
(305) 350-2111
Los Angeles Times
Times Mirror Square
Los Angeles, California 90053
(213) 237-4511
(213) 237-7679 – Fax
McCall`s Magazine
110 Fifth Avenue
New York, NY 10017-5603
(212) 463-1000
Motorcycle Cruiser Magazine
Emap PLC
6420 Wilshire Blvd., Floor 17
Los Angeles, California 90048
(323) 782-2000
National Broadcasting Company
NBC Television Network
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
(212) 664-4444
Newsweek, Inc.
Newsweek Magazine
444 Madison Avenue
New York, NY 10022-6999
(212) 350-4000
Rolling Stone Magazine
Jann Wenner, Chrm. & CEO
745 5th, Avenue
New York, NY 10151
(212) 758-3800
The New York Times Corporation
The New York Times
229 W. 43rd Street
New York, NY 10036
(212) 556-1234
Time Magazine
Time & Life Building
Rockefeller Center
New York, NY 10020
(212) 522-1212
Times-Mirror Corporation
The Los Angeles Times
Times Mirror Square
Los Angeles, CA 90053
(213) 237-3000
The Baltimore Sun
501 N. Calvert Street
Baltimore, MD 21278
(301) 332-6300
The Tribune Company
Chicago Tribune
435 N. Michigan Avenue
Chicago, IL 60611
(312) 227-3000
Washington Post
1150 15th Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20071
(202) 334-6000
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Now gun sales will go even higher. ALL of these ‘dudes’ will go buy guns and guards to protect themselves from … what they all … FEAR, the unknown! Just like everybody else does.
You’re right, CS, FEAR of the unknown is the prime motivator. It can be an alarm or an alert of danger..such as the rattle before a snake strikes. We’re experiencing such a ‘rattle’ now. Our reactions vary, we ‘hope’ we are prepared to conquer the impemding danger. Some will freeze & be paralyzed, some take a moment to evaluate & evade, perhaps some even find ‘denial’ an immediate haven. Many flounder as they know ‘something’ needs to be done but not what, Both of these later two often engage in strongly denouncing the validity of anything or anyone that amplifies the warning & even engage in name calling & foul language…We do not know what comes next, & if honest, we all will admit to some form of fear of it. The more we know, the less we fear.
A wise person said.. “We must not wait for the storm to pass, we must learn to dance in the rain” …I believe sites such as CDN helps us learn the steps..
I love my guns more then my family!
wasn’t this the list from 3-2012 that dailycaller posted?
Yeah, fucking hospitals and doctors that treat bullet wounds. The nerve, suggesting things could be improved with less guns!
Very few listed fit that criteria, even fewer have actually had a gun shot case.
Your attempt at mocking this subject fell flat.
You mean “fewer” guns. And you point out a major failing with anti-gun people; arguing solely from emotion (https://bit.ly/TD00Uo) and intuition. In fact, intuition is often wrong. If you had read “More Guns Less Crime” by economist John Lott (https://amzn.to/VMtQGM) you’d know that.
Congratulations NRA, you just managed to list nearly everyone….
Nah, they managed to miss about 85 million people….idiot…
Please provide your list of 85 million .. idiot
It’s the number of gun owners in America you collosal jackass.
Are you saying every single one of them agrees with the NRA? Because I really doubt that. Which makes you an even bigger jackass.
I am proud of the notable, intelligent people and organizations on this very impressive list.
Good, be sure and have your will include putting the names of those who enslave you on your tombstone.
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What I’d really love to see is how many on that list own guns, particularly semi-automatic pistols, have concealed carry permits or are protected by private security. They would be moved into the “No Credibility” column. The remainder, ignorant of firearms, would remain in the “Very Little Credibility” column. Still, such formidable intellects as Christie Brinkley and Britney Spears would still force me to reevaluate my stance on the Second Amendment.
Let’s not forget Carl Rowan (RIP). Typical hypocritical Washington anti-gun zealot. Shot an intruder (unfortunately, likely unjustified) with his very illegal unregistered pistol.
Thanks – now I know who to give my business to. I’ll mention this list to my pro-gun control friends so they know who to give their business to as well. Appreciate you collating the list so I didn’t have to.
What amazes me most is the Jewish support. Wow, some people just never learn it would seem. Those of you congratulating the NRA for this list so you know who to support are the people I will pray for. There will be a fight, and those of you without guns will be caught in the middle. They cannot take out guns. They want to, but they can’t. Executive order or not. They can ask for them, but the ones who turn them in will be the fools. There is so much division in this country. Those that want to be led, don’t want to work and don’t want to think for themselves… And then there’s the rest of us, who put God first, and refuse to go down w/o a fight. Read your history. No where in the past has removal of weapons panned out for the best. No where. You know who it works for? The tyrannical government. You think they will stop at the removal of gun rights? Idiots. So many idiots in this world. Good luck, you will need it when the poop hits the fan…and it will. Soon.
What amazes me most is the Jewish support. Wow, some people just never learn it would seem. There will be a fight, and those of you without guns will be caught in the middle. They cannot take out guns. They want to, but they can’t. Executive order or not. There is so much division in this country. Those that want to be led, don’t want to work and don’t want to think for themselves… And then there’s the rest of us, who put God first, and refuse to go down w/o a fight. Read your history. No where in the past has removal of weapons panned out for the best. No where. You know who it works for? The tyrannical government. You think they will stop at the removal of gun rights? Idiots. So many idiots in this world. Good luck, you will need it when the poop hits the fan…and it will. Soon.
What amazes me most is the Jewish support. Wow, some people just never learn it would seem. Those of you congratulating the NRA for this list so you know who to support are the people I will pray for. There will be a fight, and those of you without guns will be caught in the middle. They cannot take out guns. They want to, but they can’t. Executive order or not. They can ask for them, but the ones who turn them in will be the fools. There is so much division in this country. Those that want to be led, don’t want to work and don’t want to think for themselves… And then there’s the rest of us, who put God first, and refuse to go down w/o a fight. Read your history. No where in the past has removal of weapons panned out for the best. No where. You know who it works for? The tyrannical government. You think they will stop at the removal of gun rights? Idiots. So many idiots in this world. Good luck, you will need it when the poop hits the fan…and it will. Soon.
Tracy,
You said it spot-on. Brava! (That is for females).
I echo your sentiments 100%. Well stated!
“when the poop hits the fan”
are you joking or…?
seriously please tell me this is a joke
the correct phrase is “shit hits the fan”, just because i know that you were too scared to say it
and really, female power
jesus christ you’re making all of us sound so stupid
you’re not gonna keep your stupid ass guns, they actually do nothing positive they just cause trouble
but i guess you people dont care, you want people to die
well, i guess we’re all entitled to opinions
jfc go hide then you coward. You’ve said enough here for everyone to know that you would never fight for freedom. You enjoy the freedom guaranteed to you by firearms, then talk shit when people want to keep them in order to preserve that freedom.
Without the 2nd Amendment, the 1st Amendment will perish and then the Constitution.
You are retarded.
Ah, jfc….so sad. So lost. When in need, don’t call a law abiding citizen utilizing their 2nd Ammendment. Call 911. Oh, call the coroner too. Saves time. Sad individual you are. Sad.
jfc is a troll guys, stop feeding him, I highly doubt someone can be this ignorant and confrontational. If he isnt a troll, and is that stupid, hes not even worth the effort, just stay on topic and move on with the conversation.
How exactly do my guns cause trouble? Please educate me…
Time to grab up your guns and ammo and lie about them. When they start the registration, say you don’t have any. Say they are sold or stolen. DO NOT GIVE YOURSELF UP for “registration”! I say we boycott everyone on this list. If they don’t have money, they won’t be able to push their agendas. Of course it would just take a little cooperation on our part. We outnumber the gun-ban nuts, we just need to unite against them like they do against us! I will never give up my weapons, and I’m a good aim. Try to take them I dare you.
Yes, because your word will be trusted over search and seizure. Then you’ll find yourelf in more trouble.
“Try to take them I dare you.”
>Snipers can strike from further than you can see. Your firepower is approx. zero compared to the government’s arm.
@RapeJesus, only a mentally challenged person wouldn’t be able to hide firearms for a wide confiscation effort. It would be easy bury something in a non noticeable way (flower garden?) You can make hidden compartments behind drywall that looks like it has never been altered.
You cannot find barns or any other easy place to hid firearms? Think before you post.
Snipers? Really? You think that they are going to send snipers to confiscate you firearms? That would be highly ineffective. What do you think a sniper is going to do? Our firepower is approx. zero compare to the government’s arm? You mean the arm that is still american citizens and swore to uphold the same Constitution as what would be be trying to defend? You act like all of our armed service members are robots.
All the tanks and artillery would do them no good if they have to buy people to man them.
Do a search. Resisting is a crime. Resisting violently gets violent response.
@RapeJesus
You’re an idiot. The only thing anyone will get out of your little diatribe is that you would never fight for freedom because you’re a coward.
I do not desire freedom. I desire happiness. I leave choices to those who know much better than I how to make those choices.
You’re retarded.
One can tell by your name that you have no moral fiber.But it does say that you are a piece of shit.
“i don’t want freedom. I want happiness. . . .” WTF? I don’ t own a gun. Don’ t like guns. But if I must pick a side, I’m now closer to joining the NRA. That is the most appalling thing I have ever heard. I weep for my country.
Can you have one without the other?
So you’re suggesting that the federal government will just murder citizens? I guess we actually do need guns then. Oh, if you think no one can take on the mighty US military, maybe you should ask Afghanistan or Viet Nam.
The Government would not need to invade or fight on unfamiliar territory. The entire US is mapped and covered with LEOs and easy military access.
The Government would not need to invade or fight on unfamiliar territory. The entire US is mapped and covered with LEOs and easy military access.
Not to mention Korea and Vietnnam were not direct kill missions. Both nations could be bombed to the ground in seconds if need be.
After reading some of your other posts, I can see you are just a troll.
Does your nurse know you are on her computer?
Maybe its time for another injection to make you sleep a little better. You are obviously confined to an institution for the mentally deranged.
just google dept. of state publication 7277 or freedom from war (1961) and see what the govt. will let the U N do.enough said
Snipers huh…What would you call millions of real, red blooded Americans who hunt, with the best camoflage the market has to offer?
Outclassed by what’s not on the market.
most snipers were hunters first so your wrong and your screen name says it all but be sure there is a special place for blasphemise folks such as yourself. Personnaly I fear my God to much for stuff such as your name goes but I guess you have the right to believe what u want.
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I’m right there with you ANONymous Patriot, I have more firepower than the Alamo had and I am damn well determined that I will not turn them in and the only way they will no longer belong to me is when I give them to my son and grandson.
I don’t do business with people that I don’t agree with and I’ll do without before I will buy from any of these FREAKS. That includes watching a bunch of these two faced A-hole that make a living playing make believe in the movies, that kill a least 60 people in an hour and a half.
We knew it wouldn’t take long for a LEGAL gun owner to be targeted!
https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2013/01/targeted-gun-owner-robbed-after-newspaper-publishes-address/
The “Try & take them, I dare you” remark from A. Patriot indicates (to me) self-confidence, determination, loyality/love of our great Nation & has a brain capable of processing & planning ahead. Should the time come, I hope someone like this is shoulder to shoulder with me….As for the list, I suspect many of the individauls actually lack an opinion of their own & figure their stand is “in vogue’ & makes them look revelant.(they are lost, pray for them..really)
calm yourselves why the hell do you need guns this much you idiots
if nobody has them, then there is simply no reason to need them
if nobody has a gun to threaten you with, then you dont need a gun to defend yourself with
woah.
logic
Yeah, and the problem is, there will ALWAYS be guns….no matter how much you try and take them away. They were INVENTED by people that knew how to work with metal, and they will CONTINUE to be made by people that know how to work with metal. And they are even 3D printing them now! But yes, control is what you libs want…..all while the government officials are exempt to all of this…
STOP with the specious “you libs want this” asinine argument.
Libs own guns. Libs know how to use guns. I got training myself when I was a kid, at an NRA-sponsored teen program at a Sheriff’s range.
But I don’t collect high-capacity magazines, thousands of rounds of ammunition, and hide out in a bunker from the UN black helicopters.
And I don’t callously suggest that 20 first graders killed was a government conspiracy.
I’m not a RWNJ.
LOL I’m sure all the criminals and thugs will turn their guns in too just because the government passes a law. I’m sure the military and all foreign militaries will disarm themselves as well.
If you believe that nonsense, I have a bridge in London to sell you.
The laws are already on the books, chum.
They’re just not enforced because the NRA has bought so many congressmen and congresswomen that the House Budget Committee has stripped the budget of the ATFE, the agency that would enforce the laws that are SUPPOSED to regulate gun sales and gun registration — if they had money to do their job.
Look up sometime what The Tiahrt Amendment is, and why it appears in every federal spending bill since he wrote it the first time.
https://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/federal/tiahrt.shtml
You miss the point. The point is that some idiot there asked why we need guns. He states that no one needs them because if no one has them, then there will be no need for them.
And I pointed out the reality that you will never get all of the guns out of society, and certainly not from the police or the military. I believe that you would call a country where only the authorities have guns a “police state”. If you make it illegal to own a gun, the only people who turn them in will be law-abiding sheeple. The criminals will have no problem getting guns, because there will then be a black market for it. Can you go to the store and buy crack? Heroin? Meth? No? And yet, people still get those things right? Wake the heck up people. The media and the politicians are playing you all like fools. And you’re lapping it up.
“…when a government turns criminal, when a government turns deranged, the body count will not be five, ten or even twenty. It will be in the hundreds like in Tian’anmen Square. It will be in the millions, as proved by the ninety year rule of the Chinese Communist Party.”-2A supporter at Boston Rally
You really believe that the criminals are going to turn their’s in? You’re a special kind of ignorant aren’t you?
The only people who won’t have guns are law abiding citizens. Criminals will still have them. So, you are mistaken that there won’t be anyone to threaten you with a gun.
That has to be the Dumbest Logic I have Ever heard…It`s so f-ing dumb it really makes me laugh.
SO, jfc, who will and will not have guns? Us “good guys/gals?” The “bad guys/gals?” Do you REALLY think a ban on ANY gun will make YOU and YOUR family safe? If so, I pity you. Your LOGIC is so flawed, it’s sad. Very sad. But hey, when a “bad guy/gal” comes for you, please call 911. Or, heck, dial “0,” you’ll get the same response. Unless you live next door to a FULLY staffed cop station, YOU, foolish one, will be nothing but a statistic. Me, I refuse to be one. Good luck.
oh so what about knives hammers crowbars cars and so many other weapons you are a liberal.
Your stupidity precedes you!
Because its our right to buy and own…just like another right that allows you to spue stupidty, and socialistic BS…
“wow logic” – Are you KIDDING me?? You call THAT logic? Listen I am a law enforcement officer and tactical.operator.. Let’s assume that there are no guns, which you allege means that one would no longer need one to protect themselves, right? Ok we are talking real life here, not Jet Li movies…what does one do when confronted with an assailant with a knife? Ballbat? Machete? Tire iron? What about multiple assailants on one victim? Tactical logic says that you MUST always be at LEAST one level of force above that of your opponent to achieve success and live to enjoy it… Pretty damn good argument for guns. Additionally, guns keep the government somewhat afraid of the people, who must have the means to protect the constitution and their rights. And I concur with another comment: there will always be guns, regardless of how much meaningless legislation is passes. There will also always be evil. Which cannot be legislated away with any number of laws… The “logical” answer is to present an unappealing target.
we cant ban evil men
Tactical logic says that you MUST always be at LEAST one level of force above that of your opponent to achieve success and live to enjoy it…So if everyone has guns, then i need to get a grenade launcher to feel safe? IMO, if you need a gun to feel safe outside, maybe you should just stay home. maybe if you all came to the table and offered some ways to help the problem we could move forward on this. we have a problem with gun violence in this country. we have a right to keep and bear arms in this country. we have an inability to reconcile these 2 facts. I dont belive necessarily that guns are the problem, its due to the fact that we enjoy killing each other. guns are just the easiest way to do it.
I must have something wrong with me, I have own a firearm of some kind for over 55 years and I haven’t killed anybody yet. I also haven’t been afraid to go anywhere I wanted to go, and I’ve been in some very bad places, and yes even in CHICAGO, I have carried my gun. Illegal? yes, SAFE….YOU BET.
Fuck you 🙂
Go ahead and be a victim jfc your logic proves your ignorance go ahead and call 911 while your waiting better call for a herse as well… stay safe.. You think criminals are just gonna turn their guns in then your a special kind of stupid arent you
you are a MORON
jfc you are the moron what kind of logic is that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Underground guns………by criminals! Enough said!
You live in Disneyland?
that is just dumb…you are a target.
It’s not that simple and if you do not understand that, then you are the idiot. If guns are illegal, ONLY THE CRIMINALS WILL HAVE THEM. How hard is that to understand? Let’s just ban crimes…oh wait, that what our laws do. hmmmmmm
This is not about having a gun strapped to every part of your body as some of these actors have done in movies. This is just a matter of simply keeping the criminals who are carrying guns in check of some sort.
I find in incredible that all these people who want guns ban have some sort of security team who are armed with…yep….you guessed it. GUNS.
Right. Like I’m gonna use a baseball bat if faced with 5 others with baseball bats. KEEP IT UP YOU GODDAMNED LIBERAL PUKES!! We are just getting started arming up…
you will be asking a different question when your rounded up and put in a fema camp, but hey your right what do us red blooded American gun owning people know, how about you read the 2nd Amendment.
yeah because that would work why don’t we ban knives because lord knows no one gets stabbed. Con grads your an oxygen thief.
Logic? Is your logic that 800,000,000 guns are going to up and vanish like a fart in the wind? What a dumbass.
I just wanta know one thing, Have you always been that STUPID or was it something you had to work at? just keep your blinders on and you’ll never see it coming.
no body will have guns…you better believe the bad guys will have them.
you are simply a moron. sheep. criminals dont give up their guns you moron
When the strong prey on the weak a gun is needed for the weak to thwart the strong. If you are bigger than me and stronger than me and I am afraid for my life a gun might be my only recourse to save myself.
“A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and
Ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them,
which would INCLUDE their own government” George Washington
cause idiots like you dont realize the crooks will still have guns ,its called leveling the playing field ,and no its not a game . Crooks are smart enough to know if someone else has a gun then its probably not a good idea to try and rob an armed citizen.do you honestly think the police can always protect you ,no matter how hard they try they can never be there just at the right time . But if you dont want to own a gun then dont just shutup and let the rest of honest Americans own theirs to protect theirself or family if needed ,until then i will practice gun control ,steady aim ,correct target identification and a steady trigger squeeze.
jfc..,.The bad guys will always have guns. Why don’t you just go back to sleep and let the grown ups handle this.
If the guns are taken away, then the criminals will be the only ones with guns. They don’t care about the laws or they wouldn’t be criminals. They will get them, legally or illegally.
You sir are delusional. Let’s have gun free zones like Chicago. In a perfect world you’re logic may be OK. You need to study history sir.
I guess you didn’t read or simply did not comprehend the essay above. The gun is the equalizer. We do not live in a none violent society. If you remove guns from society, the weak, the old, the frail or the out numbered will always be the victims of the strong, the young, the virile or the masses. When my mother was newly married she had a man follow her around the neighborhood and he would sometimes make suggestive or inappropriate comments. She was afraid of him. He was bigger and stronger and he had made his intent clear on several occasions. She took to carrying my father’s .38 revolver in her purse. She pulled the car up and stopped at the house with the window down. The perv appeared from behind some bushes and reached through the window and grabbed her left arm. With her right hand she puller the .38 from her purse and leveled at him. The encounter stopped right then and her attacker was never seen in the neighborhood again. How different it might have been if she had not been armed. Guns create a civilized society.
HAHA! Pure genius! Oh…wait…firearms have been developed since the 1500’s. So, with modern tools a person could easily create these simple firearms in their own garages and sell them to the criminals who already have hoards of illegal weapons that they’ll never give up!
For about 8 seconds you were really really smart! But then…I thought. You should too.
I’ve got a better idea; Ban murder and see how that works.
Why do you need an automobile, you fool, you could just keep your ass at home and get the government to bring your food to you, or why do you own a computer? you don’t need a computer if you know how to write a letter or count or read a newspaper.
These are PERSONAL decisions that everybody is entitled to make for themselves and we don’t need some MORON telling us that we can or can’t own them. They are covered in the CONSTITUTION, get it!.
I don’t NEED a gun, it’s my RIGHT under the 2A to have one! See the difference?! So you don’t think u NEED one?! Then that is your RIGHT to not own one! Your use of need is invalid in your somewhat explanation of your opinion!
I don’t NEED a gun, it’s my RIGHT under the 2A to have one! See the difference?! So you don’t think u NEED one?! Then that is your RIGHT to not own one! Your use of need is invalid in your somewhat explanation of your opinion!
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. If you don’t like guns, don’t own one. Leave those of us who do own guns alone. If anyone thinks I shouldn’t be allowed to own a gun, all I can tell you is don’t be the one that tries to take my guns from me. Your family will miss you!
Sorry for my 2 cents here but Gun Control to me means hitting your target!!
And for that you don’t need a 30-round magazine, then, do you?
Will refer to this list when selecting movies and products. I knew about Levi and Strauss since the 90’s, haven’t bought a pair of their jeans since.
you got that right! will never, ever pay for anything they are in or produce…especially if they are toting guns in it!
March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos
why the gun is civilization.
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation…and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
very well written….
Holy crap I love this! Im stealing it because it says exactly what I think/feel! But I will give you the credit. 🙂
Great post!
Ok, so where can I buy a Gatling gun?
You can buy a full blown MG42 German Machine Gun, capable of firing 1400 round per minute if you want. They are only $35,000.00 if you can find one and it will take a minimum of 6 months,up to a year to get the tax stamp after filing all the paper work with the government, then you will be restricted as to where you can take it.
“When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force.”
Utter nonsense.
Ask a cop how reasonable he must be when confronting someone with a gun. Your lifespan will be measured in seconds.
I read some of Marko Kloos’ Tweets. He’s pretty funny.
He writes (copied above) about “people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society” as if that’s the default position of “leftists” or “liberals”. It’s not. That’s the position of people diametrically opposite the gun rights fanatics.
Leftists/liberals own guns, too, and want to keep the ones we have. But we want people who have 40 guns in their basement including a rocket launcher to puh-leeze give up a few of them, just in case someone throws a Molotov cocktail into the basement and blows up the neighborhood.
Chances are the neighbors and the fire department and the gendarmes don’t know of their stash.
Makes me wonder if Nancy Lanza had 37 more guns in her basement — she WAS a gun collector — and her son Adam only chose three…
These actors and actresses have been pushing those big-ole money making movies for years filling peoples heads with violence for years and now they want to squelch the innocent with their communistic ideas of life.. How many of them do right and then can tell others how they are doing wrong ? Or how many of them are doing wrong and then want to correct others ? Guns don`t kill.. Idiots that don`t do right kill.. Even in the actions of entertainment world are people taught to kill by gun, mouth, whatever..
I see that big nasty fat slob michael moore is on that list. He hates small business and hates guns too apparently, so he needs to give his up and his damn body gaurds and since he beleives in redistrubuting how about him giving up some of his millions to the goverment. They have a site where it isnt but a click away. to put your money where your big fat nasty mouth is. As you can tell, I have no use for scum bag.
Right with you man that dude needs to go to a rendering plant make good use of that fat lol
OMG! Michael Moore is against Guns? Good enough reason for me to be against them then get rid of all my guns, hmm maybe I can do what Obama would do and just send them to Mexico.
Have you ever noticed what product placement is in a lot of movies these days? Yeah, those big-ole money-making movies are making lots of money for gun manufacturers and gun dealers, with the bullets flying and the protagonist only suffering a flesh wound that doesn’t slow him down a moment. Or he turns out to be a cyborg, with mutant healing properties.
ERROR: I wish to report that Motorcycle Cruiser Magazine personally informed me that their inclusion on this list is a mistake!
Ofcourse thats what they tell you lol.
Its called CYA!!! (Cover your ass)…
I’ll bet they got bombarded with bikers complaints….
So all you crack head, over medicated, crazies out there now know who the anti-gun peeps are, we’ll work out the address thingy next. Most likely these places won’t have guns, but they’ll probably have a cell phone they can call 911 with, so be careful of that. I’m sure the response time will be fine!
Raise the alarm! Warn everybody! Hide the wimmin and chillen! They’re comin’ after you!
Calm down. Stop the paranoia and fear. Man up, OK? You don’t have to hide in your closet. Try locking your doors and keeping some lights on in your house. This isn’t the movies, where the crazed doped-up fiend leaps out at you from the shadows.
Absolutely raise the alarm. The longer you wait and pacify the public to being complacent the closer you get to Obama’s Sharia initiative. To wait and pretend that things cannot be worse is more than just ignorant, it’s downright shameful. European countries are fighting with the roving Islamist factions as we type and what are you doing about trying to help, your saying what Obama Wants you to say, that everything is perfectly all right. Well KJ everything is NOT alright. Sharia creep is happening and if we don’t have the balls to stop it before you cannot walk the streets, you’ll certainly wish you knew the reason why. All this violence against children hasn’t happened until of late and taking my guns away isn’t going to stop stupidity from doing it again. The only thing to do that is stopping the moral decline and stepping up parenting. Stop relying on the schools to raise these children and step up to the plate and talk with them. You get on here and every one that has an opinion, you over ride it with laid back rhetoric. You’ll wish you had a gun just two years from now. Mark it on your calendar, Mr. Karen.
Bottom line, if you attempt to force law-abiding citizens to give up their guns, at least two things immediatley happen. A target on every household for criminals and a victory for a quickly growing dictatorial government. As trite as it sounds, “Outlawing guns means only outlaws will have guns.”
Neither handguns nor hunting rifles nor shotguns are affected by the proposed regulations regarding background checks, uncertified gun sales, or high-capacity magazines.
Why do you Chicken Littles persist in your alarmist paranoia?
Karen, have you seen the part where any semi automatic with a “grip” will be outlawed by Frankenstein. What good is anything you can’t hold on to? By your stand liberals shouldn’t have guns because liberalism is a mental disorder.
I’d love to see the corporations listed. Like Amazon, Pepsico, Bank of America etc..
Doesn’t matter how many times it’s pointed out that gun control doesn’t mean gun confiscation. Doesn’t matter if it’s a fact or not. You still get people (many of whom fill this thread) that continue to pretend otherwise.
GUN CONTROL IS NOT GUN CONFISCATION.
No – but it is a step toward it!
Didn’t you read what Locker said? “Doesn’t matter how many times it’s pointed out that gun control doesn’t mean gun confiscation.”
And it didn’t. Not for you.
People like you are called fanatics. Like fans of a favorite team, you can’t be swayed from your belief that your team isn’t a winner.
Gun Control is not about Guns…it’s about strange metropolitan metrosexual nutjobs that lack the ability to understand simple statistics as they daydream about the rainbow colored land known as the kumbaya utopian brain fart. Where the “Good Witch” Feinstein makes it rain koolaid packets and EBT cards stapled to amnesty papers for all….amen
They will however complain to the guys with the most guns (government) until they take our guns away.
Yes, it does…why would they want to know if it weren’t for a reason?
Criminals don’t register guns…My urologist was Killed today in Newport Beach, CA. the gun in the 70 year old mans hand that shot him wasn’t registered.. if I had been there …he would have only been shot once maybe twice and I would have shot the Old Crazy bastard …guns don’t kill people, Bad, crazy people kill people !
I heard about that killing. Coulda sworn it was a gun in the hand of the old crazy bastard that killed the doctor.
Or did the old crazy bastard just head-butt the doctor?
Yes it does. The proponents of the first gun ban admitted it all ready. After it passes they claimed it was the first step. Don’t be fooled!!!!
Cue Twilight Zone theme…
I’m proud of everyone on this list!
You would probably be proud if they chained you to trees too.
I’m betting you’d have been proud of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot
Your comment makes no sense, “vigilantis”.
He’s just repeating what was in the e-mail he got from Glenn Beck.
Me too! I’m proud that they stepped forward and revealed that they hate America! Now we can boycott the bejesus out of them in pure undeniable joy and pleasure!!!
Woohooo!
Someone needs to throw a net over the NRA. They’ve always been a toxic front for gun manufacturers, but now they’ve gone completely off the deep end and are compiling enemies-lists.
Your NUTS, the NRA is protecting the Rights guaranteed under the 2nd Amendment of the CONSTITUTION. Someone needs to throw a net over you.
AMEN RANDY! Can dish it out all day long, but they can’t take the heat… get out of my country then, our second amendment is part of our CREED and patriotism!
Did you enjoy the Kool Atd??? None of you libs know or admit that the NRA has done more safety training to children than any anti-gun group. The Eddie Eagle program has been proven to work. What do the libs do beside talk and complain?
Obviously Eddie Eagle isn’t reaching the right people, if recent events (a slew of mass-murder shootings) are any indication.
Sorry but they fight for me! Gun manufactures are getting that protection as a side note.
I’m sure you don’t realize how the NRA got started. By fighting to arm blacks to keep them free and safe from their ex democrat slave owners!
NRA the first civil rights organization. So tell me, you don’t want blacks to be able to arm themselves from the likes of the KKK. Maybe gay’s shouldn’t arm themselves from gay bashers?
Oh, that explains the hangings, beatings, lynchings, dragging behind trucks, shootings, rapes, flaying, drawing and quartering, and all those other things that happened to unarmed blacks between the end of the Civil War and the advent of the Civil Rights Act, right?
Or did all that happen AFTER blacks armed themselves?
You democrates, weren’t to nice to the blacks we’re you. I’m glad you turned your party around.
Take each cie, peoples or church and you will see they’re all connect to Caritas Internationalis who’s run by the Vatican, the false church of Christ, to achieve global peace plan = (war and tyranny global agenda). Actors and signers could be associate with one of their big corporation like Hollywood who’s also connect to the global church who control everything. Many of them are connect to some NGO charities, leading charities that provides assistance to the “poor communities”.
Caritas Internationalis = REVELATION 17-18
https://marialeroux1.xooit.fr/t147-ONG-NGO.htm
The World Council of Churches who’s also run by the Vatican control all denominational churches and all religion. Only the disciples of Christ refuse to submit to the corrupt church of Rome.
Some of you fools would do well to read before you post. “… the NRA has upped the game by publishing the names of gun control advocates all over the country. Many of the names on the list are companies, organizations and individuals that are GUARDED BY ARMED SECURITY”.
Not an “enemies list”.
Why didn’t Jesus make the list?
Ha read your bible. Jesus never advocated disarmament. If fact he said just the opposite.
Why did Peter have a sword to cut off the soldiers ear? Jesus never told him not to carry it.
If you think Jesus was a pacifist, You are mistaken! He sure as hell kick the crap out of the money changers.
Jesus doesn’t belong on the list.
Matthew 5:9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Luke 6:27 “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.
James 3:18 And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
and so on and so on.
Of course Jesus was a pacifist. What an extraordinarily dumb thing for you to say.
Yeah, Jesus was a pacifist. Turn the other cheek and all that stuff. I’m an old school man myself, if someone harms me or my family, rest assured they will regret it.
making families, homes and neighborhoods vulnerable to theft and assault
While I don’t approve of the newspaper listing the names of gun owners, I don’t get this comment. Why would people be MORE likely to commit theft or assault against somebody they know to own a gun? I thought the whole idea was that gun ownership makes this LESS likely.
The National Rifle Association decided to hit back.
By publishing names of people and organizations that had nothing to do with the newspaper publishing the original list? That makes sense.
If the intent of the newspaper was to shame those with gun permits living in their community
Are you saying that they were shamed?
Because now the criminals know where to steal guns.
If they are intending to harm someone then they know who doesn’t have guns!
If I was a criminal around there that info would be a god send. No more worrying what house had a gun or not.
Some rapists has an eye on your lovely wife all he has to do is check that article and address make sure there is no gun there and he’s got a free pass.
I think someone ought to do a background check on you, Chuck.
It’s not the gun control advocates or the gun rights advocates that are evil. The evil ones are the folks who would use guns for evil purposes, as well as the government who would then take “gun control measures” and use that as a jumping off point to take away more rights for their own evil purpose. So, both sides can be good or evil, depending on their intentions behind their stance. I prefer not to villify anyone on either side of the argument until and unless I know what their real intentions are. Until then, there is no need to suspect that anyone/everyone on whichever side you are against is a bad person simply because of their stand on gun control.
Most evil thinks it’s doing the right and good thing. Keep that in mind. 😉
It’s all for the greater good or for someones protection.
Yup, I realize that people don’t always think about their actions as being evil. My point above was regarding those with ill intent – meaning they are perfectly aware that their intentions aren’t good.
Wayne LiePierre is a perfect example of “those with ill intent”. He’s a lobbyist. For the gun manufacturing industry. And gun dealers. You know, free market capitalism.
The current mindset of the neocon right winger is that the free market should be unregulated. The stance of Wayne LiePierre’s NRA is only the most recent example of that.
The banking industry, the fossil fuel industry, the pharmaceutical industry are other examples that have caused a lot of pain and expense recently. Also, too.
It is nice to know that I am in good company – add me to the list as well. I am a gun owner and I am also in favor of stricter gun regulations.
WHY????
Why what?
Why do you agree with unconsttutional gun laws? I DO NOT THINK ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL, SO WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO BE EXPOSED TO IT. oops caps lock on. There are many things I disagree with, but I do not advocate they be done away with to make me happy. If you really look into a lot of the info in the media you will find they are false, bent or plain lies. Read Atlas Shrugged, and compare that plot to what we see today.
Gun regulation is not unconstitutional and I believe that people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to purchase any type of gun. I believe mental health screenings are important and since the constitution does state “A well regulated militia” it does stand to reason that regulations should be in place. Nothing unconstitutional about it. Cars are registered and regulated – why not fire arms?
Ugh! Atlas Shrugged? Seriously? That is the best you can come up with?!? John Galt never existed
Cars are not a right, they are a privilidge. The right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness is a right. Protection of life and liberty is a right and shall not be infringed upon. Any infringement on that right is unConstitutional.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Seriously, I am a gun owner, and you all really need to stop pulling up the abortion argument. It’s so stupid, and it makes you look like idiots. I do think we need to keep psychos and mentally unstable people away from guns. They don’t have any business with one. But perfectly sane individuals should be allowed to keep their guns.
No, Atlas Shrugged was not all I could come up with. Read “Hunger Games,the “Patriots”, Agenda 21,and The sites Un.com, ICLEI.com, democratsagainstagenda21.com for a start. John Gault may not have been real but what that book talks about is the agenda of the UN now, and they expect you to pay for it.
Don’t believe everything you think Greywolf.
Great comeback, SquidProQuo. Must add that to my repertoire, to be brought into service as necessary (which could be quite often).
If you say Guns should not be regulated as there will always be guns, then it stands to reason you should also say abortion should be legal as there will always be abortion.
That’s dumb argument. You’re comparing the apples to footballs. Yeah, you’re that way off. Abortion involves destroying a life that’s is not yet born, that’s willfully surrendered, offered no protection or safety and nor covered or protected by any laws. In contrast, there are laws against criminals getting guns. There are laws that make murder a crime. There are agency that protect people. There are rights established that allow an individual to protect himself from harm. So how are you going to draw parallisms of gun regulation to abortion? Moreover, explain to me how a regulated gun will keep a criminal from murdering? It’s not like they buy there guns from legit gun stores.
That’s dumb argument. You’re comparing the apples to footballs. Yeah, you’re that way off. Abortion involves destroying a life that’s is not yet born, that’s willfully surrendered, offered no protection or safety and nor covered or protected by any laws. In contrast, there are laws against criminals getting guns. There are laws that make murder a crime. There are agency that protect people. There are rights established that allow an individual to protect himself from harm. So how are you going to draw parallelism of gun regulation to abortion? Moreover, explain to me how a regulated gun will keep a criminal from murdering? It’s not like they buy there guns from legit gun stores.
Guns are like vaccinations for crime but vaccines work the best when everyone participates. Mandatory vaccination in the past have virtually eradicated diseases. So too guns deter and eliminate crime but EVERYONE must take responsibility and do their duty and own and or carry for it to realise maximum effectiveness. Those of you who don’t take precautions to arm yourselves and have an effective plan for self defence and the defence of others are putting the rest of us and our children at risk and making us less safe. Don’t use places that have strict gun control as your examples look to those that got it right. Switzerland has a fully-automatic true “assault” weapons in almost every house….lowest crime rate in the WORLD!!! They also don’t have the fear and hang ups about guns that some do. So do your part have a defence plan and arm yourself. If you have fears just ask a friend that doesn’t. Most gun owners would be tickled to take you out your first time and teach you proper respect and safety for guns. Gun owners can’t do this alone we need the rest of you to help out. Who in the hell would want to prey on the weak if they knew everyone had a gun? Crime does not survive in a properly vaccinated society. Common sense solution by Chuck Reichenbach
When you have that many respected and prestigious orgs & individuals opposed to you, you must be doing something wrong.
BINGO !!!!
You mean like the American people against Obama…Hes doinf everything wrong.
The NRA is a terrorist organization and gun junkies, just like drug junkies, have no control over their addiction and need an intervention.
I wish your mother would have aborted you…
I agree with Fred
Bet you’re ok with killing babies though.
I’m a law abiding citizen, I am 4 my 2nd amendment. I’ve saved my 3 children from a violent intruder. I’ve saved my own well-being from getting violently raped in my work parking garage. I was a single parent raising 3 children, I was looking out and wanting safety 4 my children. I did the responsible thing, I took gun classes, my children took gun SAFETY classes. I’ve been a gun owner since ’92, i’ve been a CCW now for 5yrs. Not you or anyone else in this whole world will ever make me change my mind. I WAS NOT ABOUT TO ALLOW MY CHILDREN AND MYSELF BECOME ANOTHER STATISTIC!! our lives be talked about on the 10:00pm news, then 4gotten except for my family and friends. I thank our Founding Fathers for giving me this right to protect me and my children, when the police authorities would have been to late to protect me and my family. I do absolutely agree that background checks should be more aggressive.I believe it should be mandatory that gun safety classes be taught to all members of the household, age appropriate.. been noted that even a 3 year old can pull a trigger. I believe if a child gets ahold of a gun, the parents and owner of gun, should be held accounted for it. I know its mainly been specified Assault weapons (for now, eventually all guns), in all reality, a box cutter was named as an Assault weapon. I would really like to know how you would feel (heaven forbid) if a member of your family, female for that matter, was about to be violently assaulted, and on the table closest to you laid a gun and your cell phone…which would you go for 1st? the cell phone to call 911, estimated arrival time, 15 mins, by then the horrid act has been acted out,or a gun held to the perpetrator, either shoot him or at least hold him until you can all the police, mean time, your female family member will never have to be violated and have to live the rest of her life really never being the same person ever again???? i would love to read your response to this.
Thank You!!
Sincerely,
Single Mother of 3
Ps, I’m not a gun junkie, i believe in protecting myself and my family or even maybe a woman getting violated by a rapist,,(a control junkie),,you really need to re-evaluate, put yourself in the victim’s situation, what would you truly do?
When you have that many respected and prestigious orgs and individuals opposed to you, you must be doing something wrong.
If you consider defending the constitution of the United States wrong then there must be something wrong with you.
I’m a law abiding citizen, I am 4 my 2nd amendment. I’ve saved my 3 children from a violent intruder. I’ve saved my own well-being from getting violently raped in my work parking garage. I was a single parent raising 3 children, I was looking out and wanting safety 4 my children. I did the responsible thing, I took gun classes, my children took gun SAFETY classes. I’ve been a gun owner since ’92, i’ve been a CCW now for 5yrs. Not you or anyone else in this whole world will ever make me change my mind. I WAS NOT ABOUT TO ALLOW MY CHILDREN AND MYSELF BECOME ANOTHER STATISTIC!! our lives be talked about on the 10:00pm news, then 4gotten except for my family and friends. I thank our Founding Fathers for giving me this right to protect me and my children, when the police authorities would have been to late to protect me and my family. I do absolutely agree that background checks should be more aggressive.I believe it should be mandatory that gun safety classes be taught to all members of the household, age appropriate.. been noted that even a 3 year old can pull a trigger. I believe if a child gets ahold of a gun, the parents and owner of gun, should be held accounted for it. I know its mainly been specified Assault weapons (for now, eventually all guns), in all reality, a box cutter was named as an Assault weapon. I would really like to know how you would feel (heaven forbid) if a member of your family, female for that matter, was about to be violently assaulted, and on the table closest to you laid a gun and your cell phone…which would you go for 1st? the cell phone to call 911, estimated arrival time, 15 mins, by then the horrid act has been acted out,or a gun held to the perpetrator, either shoot him or at least hold him until you can all the police, mean time, your female family member will never have to be violated and have to live the rest of her life really never being the same person ever again???? i would love to read your response to this.
Thank You!!
Sincerely,
Single Mother of 3
You do realize that at least 6 celebrities on this list are dead, right?
From down under I am at a loss to understand why any law abiding, god fearing person would need a military assault rifle with a truck load of ammo an a magazine.
Just why you folk want to fight this issue when thousands of your country men women and children are injured and dying around you I would have thought that the safety of your loved ones would come a long way before the need to own these kind of weapons.
Ric, due to you being an imbecile, What does me, a law abiding citizen have to do with gun crime? I hav an SKS, and I go to the range to shoot it for recreation. When I get home I lock it in my safe. What you fail to realize is it is our right here in the US to do so. You say why? Why do people have cell phones when they can have a house phone. Do you know that there are double the deaths due to DUI’s in the US? So are they going to ban beer? How about you do a little research into your own country that has had a violent crime spike since guns were banned. That is your lesson for today, class dismissed.
Isn’t it true that increasing/maintaining tough drunk-driving regulation and strict enforcement of DUI offenses has reduced DUI deaths significantly over the last dozen years?
If so, how is using DUI’s a good argument against adequate gun control?
I’m sure his point was that there are bigger fish to fry. Driving drunk isn’t a constitutional right. Neither is driving for that matter. You have the ability to regulate and license that all you want. You infringe on my rights when you mess with guns. It says shall not be infringed not shall not be infringed much.
I’m glad that I don’t live i a country that seems to be as full of hatred as the US seems to be.
Just the idea to begin an answer the opponent by calling him “imbecile”?
Comforting to know that a person whith that kind of temper is fighting for his right to own an assaultwepon…
This is how the right wing gun fanatics explain themselves to the world beyond our borders. The rest of are embarrassed for them, because they’re sociopathic enough to not feel shame, embarrassment, or empathy for the dead children, and they attack anyone who disagrees with them or criticizes them.
Stop standing on the graves of dead children to force your anti-Constitutional agenda down innocent people’s throats.
Law abiders will not suffer anti-American Commie lawbreakers like you to impose YOUR will on us. You WILL obey our laws and conform to them, like it or not.
Your every post is an attack. Lots of kids die because people like you are afraid to pick up a gun and protect yourself and those around you and want to make everyone else just as impudent.
Do your duty and get yourself a gun, take a class. Stop letting crimanals and mad men butcher our children.
We need your help. Us gun owners can’t protect everyone.
Not my quote, but does attempt to answer at least part your question…
Why the gun is civilization.
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gangbanger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weightlifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation…and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
Its a very simple issue really. We have this pesky document called a Constitution that protects our right to own a gun. We understand the rest of the world is more than willing to do whatever its leaders tells them to do but being cantankerous Americans we would rather abide by the Constitution. It protects our RIGHT to keep and bear arms. That is all you really need to know.
Mr. McDonald, I’m a law abiding citizen, I am 4 my 2nd amendment. I’ve saved my 3 children from a violent intruder. I’ve saved my own well-being from getting violently raped in my work parking garage. I was a single parent raising 3 children, I was looking out and wanting safety 4 my children. I did the responsible thing, I took gun classes, my children took gun SAFETY classes. I’ve been a gun owner since ’92, i’ve been a CCW now for 5yrs. Not you or anyone else in this whole world will ever make me change my mind. I WAS NOT ABOUT TO ALLOW MY CHILDREN AND MYSELF BECOME ANOTHER STATISTIC!! our lives be talked about on the 10:00pm news, then 4gotten except for my family and friends. I thank our Founding Fathers for giving me this right to protect me and my children, when the police authorities would have been to late to protect me and my family. I do absolutely agree that background checks should be more aggressive.I believe it should be mandatory that gun safety classes be taught to all members of the household, age appropriate.. been noted that even a 3 year old can pull a trigger. I believe if a child gets ahold of a gun, the parents and owner of gun, should be held accounted for it. I know you specified Assault weapons, in all reality, a box cutter was named as an Assault weapon. I would really like to know how you would feel (heaven forbid) if a member of your family, female for that matter, was about to be violently assaulted, and on the table closest to you laid a gun and your cell phone…which would you go for 1st? the cell phone to call 911, estimated arrival time, 15 mins, by then the horrid act has been acted out,or a gun held to the perpetrator, either shoot him or at least hold him until you can all the police, mean time, your female family member will never have to be violated and have to live the rest of her life really never being the same person ever again???? i would love to read your response to this.
Thank You!!
Sincerely,
Single Mother of 3
I understand your position Brandel but why would anyone need an AK47 with a 50 shot magazine.
My understanding of the proposed legislation is to tighten the ownership of guns and restrict the sale of High powered automatic weapons.
How does this impact on your right to bear arms.
It is never the responsible citizen that goes berserk with a gun, but someone who has snapped for what ever reason, surly it is a good move to restrict the amount of damage these people can do by taking these guns designed to do the maximum damage in the least amount of time.
Your right to bear arms comes from a time when a high powered gun was a flintlock mussel loader. I am sure your founding fathers would have phrased it differently if they knew what a gun could look like over 200 years later.
Look man, it doesn’t matter if someone has a pistol or an AK47. A person with the intent to kill, WILL DO IT. Someone with a knife could’ve gone into Sandy Hook and caused as much damage, someone with the intent to cause harm, WILL DO IT. So piss off and don’t question why someone needs a 50 round AK47. Maybe they just want it, that is their right as an American.
Time to stop drinking the Kool-Aid. The AR-15 round is -anything but- “high powered”. A .30-30 lever action round is far more potent. But more importantly, automatic weapons have been de-facto illegal, requiring special licensing since 1934. That’s why I, for one, resist more control measures – because the lions’ share of proponents of them have no idea of what they speak. It’s fundamentally flawed to try to write, or even to support, rules over something which you have not even a close to accurate understanding.
Um… with regard to the founding fathers and their writing the 2nd Amendment when guns were muzzleloaders – we have interpreted other Amendments to keep up with the intent and with the technology. If you want to limit civilian ownership of guns to flintlocks, then, get off the web. The fathers couldn’t possibly have foreseen this medium. You get only a quill pen, ink, and some paper. Your letters must be delivered on horseback.
Now, you may also stand in the public square and shout out your thoughts… or, nail said hand-written material to a pole or bulletin board. If you’re rich enough you may own a printing press, capable of one sheet only per mechanically-operated pressing, one side only, using type carved by hand from wood.
Still want to limit constitutionally-protected rights to strictly those objects and practices that existed in 1787? Compare apples to apples, and maintain an equal perspective.
When was the last time a quill pen or a printing press was used to kill someone?
Not necessarily true,,
We have the Superposed load/stacked charged, 1st mentioned in 1558 and 1662.
British patented in 1682. Resource may be found on The Bulletproof Patriot website.
The “Puckle Gun” invented in 1718, it was a 11 shot rotating cylinder.
Belton Flintlock designed in 1777, the continental congress purchased 100 of these guns, but the only reason they didnt purchase more was for the fact they were too expensive, not for any other reason. if you do some more history research,, back in that era in the 1500’s, 1600’s and 1700’s, civilians had cannons, imagine that!! These were the 1st so-called assault weapons. So in all reality, the technology was available. In the above mentioned website and names of the guns (google the names) you will see the pictures of said guns.
The reality of it, in real life, not your imaginary scenario, is this example: the victim of an abusive ex-husband who shot her pistol into the ceiling of her house to frighten away her assailant, not even aiming at him, was convicted of attempted murder and is now in prison, sentenced to 20 years.
This was in a “Stand Your Ground” state, which should given her the benefit of the doubt.
That was totally wrong on her part by not SHOOTING him, because of the fact, you are taught in gun classes, which i was, if you are to pull your gun out, YOU ARE TO SHOOT THAT PERSON!!,,there is no calling someone’s bluff per say,,, there is no saying,, if you take another step, i’ll shoot or back up and turn around and go back out “MY” door or i’m gonna shoot!! are you serious, stand my ground??? she didnt stand her ground at all. there is consequences for not knowing and understanding the laws and your rights!! if you dont believe in guns, that is your right, but i’m not going to let anyone impose on my rights. I was given this right by GOD, and it is mine to fight for it and i will continue to fight for it. My scenario as you put it,,, it wasnt made up at all…. it happened and i used it as an example……when someone attacks you or someone you know,, i’m sure someday, you will consider how are you going to protect yourself and the ones close to you.
Ric, Asault rifles are now owned by civilians. You might look and find out what an “assault rifle” really is. What I own are semi automatic rifles. An “assault rifle” is one that has a selector switch for full auto fire. My guns may look the same but they aren’t the same. The 2nd Amendment was written for the protection of We the People from a tyrannical government not for hunting or target shooting. It would be nice if you actually knew what you are talking about instead of spouting crap that isn’t anywhere near factual.
It’s perfectly fine that you don’t understand. You aren’t required to understand. You aren’t American. We don’t seek your validation. We don’t seek validation from anyone outside this country. We don’t seek validation from the UN. This is America and these are American freedoms. We have no Bill of Needs. We have a Bill of Rights. We don’t base our rights on what we need. People don’t need to drive cars, have children, or eat cheeseburgers, yet automobile accidents, maternal mortality, and heart attacks each individually claim more victims per year than the weapons some seek to ban. More people are killed every year by lightning strikes, baseball bats, clubs and knives than by the weapons in question. The fact is, this isn’t about numbers. People are fixated on the image of the “evil black rifle” that has no use other than killing children. Most people on both sides of the argument are missing the point. I’ve heard it said that “If we can save the life of even a single child this is worth doing.” Many are thinking the same thing yet don’t have the personal integrity to verbalize it… Saving the lives of twenty, fifty, or even one hundred children is not worth sacrificing the fundamental rights of 300,000,000 American citizens. Pause for a second to allow that to sink in. Sure, it’s absolutely horrendous what their families have had to go through, but it’s still only a small speck on the page in a very thick history book. Children are not the most important thing in this world, even if they do carry the most influence in terms of societal emotional manipulation. More have died in the Revolutionary War alone than in every mass shooting in the history of this country. Many more have died protecting these rights than have died as a result of them… and this will continue. The right to keep and bear arms is a natural right. You get it at birth even if you are born a slave. The right existed long before our 2nd Amendment. Our 2nd Amendment simply guarantees that these preexisting rights “shall not be infringed”. There is no fine print. There are no exceptions. There are no time limitations. The language is extremely clear and concise. The language is absolute. Hundreds of years of people trying to interpret and subvert these 4 simple words is nothing short of insulting to the brilliance of the founders and the resolve of those who have and will continue to die fighting to ensure the continuance of liberty.
So, you believe that the best way to protect your loved ones, is to give up your right and ability to choose how best to defend them? That makes absolutely no sense to me. Criminals have access to all types of weapons, including firearms, and do not have to go through legal means to purchase them…and the best way to defend against an armed criminal intent on harming you, is to be armed with equal or better force.
When a criminal turns your home into a battle field, armed with one of these so called assault weapons, how are you going to defend yourself and your loved ones?
Or, how about your gov’t decides to become tryannical and oppressive, and potentially enslave or mass murder everyone that disagrees with them? (its happened many times) how are you going to defend your liberties, property, posessions, and most importantly your loved ones?
With Scissors? A pearing knife? A single action 6 shot revolver? or bolt action hunting rifle? Wont work very well if your goal is to stay alive, and keep your loved ones safe.
Best solution, hands down, is to be armed with equal or better arms, than could or would be used against you.
I am a proud member of the Church of the Brethren, which is on this list. If the NRA thinks they are shaming our church by publishing them on this list, they are very wrong. I, and most church members I know, are proud to be gun control advocates and members of a historical peace church. And I can guarantee you that we are not guarded by armed security.
Nobody cares.
I care, and agree with Patrice.
If you don’t want to own a gun don’t but don’t tell me I can’t. I am a veteran, a gun owner, and a very peaceful person. I have never shot anyone outside of war and have never denied anyone their God-given rights. Why not spend your time advocating for enforcing existing law instead of passing more laws that won’t be enforced. The problem in our nation is evil, not guns. Why are you not advocating the end of pornography, abortion on demand, and the
ACLU defending criminals who should be in prison or put to death for their crimes. Your desire to make a difference is fine but it is misguided. Christians should be fighting evil not freedom but too many choose to ignore the real problem to make a splash. As a Christian I fight against the evil being pushed by our government and other liberal organizations.
AMEN, Brother! Christian churches have become bastions of paganized Christianity, substituting milk for meat. If today’s Christians had so much as an inkling of what TRUE Christians were like at the birth of our country, they’d hang their heads in shame.
SHAME on the Godless churches who pass themselves off as Christian! Your shephards are wolves in sheeps’ clothing, plundering the flock. Where is thy salt, O Christian?
Not only that they support the muslim King Obama and Jew hating Chuck Hagle. Do I need to mention what happens to those who go against Israel in the end days?
The only thing you can say Bob, is “forgive them Father for they know not what they do.”
They are a part of the world and see things as the world does.
Your country is clearly one of the sickest in the world. Of course more guns result in more crimes, violence and murder, anyone who doesn´t understand that is an idiot. NRA are evil people. The rest of the world shakes their heads and laughs at USA.
Can you explain Switzerland where every household is REQUIRED to own firearms? While I agree that our nation is sick, guns aren’t the problem and the NRA members aren’t the evil ones. The same people who decry guns promote abortion, pornography, and refuse to enforce the laws we have now. Guns aren’t the problem but I agree evil is. The evil comes from liberalism not conservatives who value the Constitution and ALL of its points. Liberals don’t believe in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They believe in them deciding who lives, how we live, and who deserves what they call happiness. Marxist wanna-be dictators and their evil Satanic followers are the problem. You apparently know very little about the USA.
After reading your narrow focussed opinion, I doubt very much Per – Sweden WANTS to know more about YOUR USA.
Hey, Per from Sweden, come over to Politicususa.com and read how reasonable and intelligent and FACTUAL the commenters are over there.
Narrow focused opinion? I point out the problem of evil in our nation that is not only accepted but pushed by government. Liberals can’t accept anything but their own jaded opinions and they aren’t based on facts. If you will look at the FACTS you will find how many more times guns are used for self defense than they are for evil.
Uh, i can explain Switzerlan, but I doubt you will understand or approve of the TRUTH.
Firstly, the gun you speak of is for the National Militia – BUT, the ammo (50 rounds) is LOCKED UP IN THE LOCAL ARMORY and not with the gun.
Sounds like you bought a line of BS. They would NEVER allow the owning of dozens of assault weapons and buying of thousands of rounds without a question.
I hope you learned something today – but somehow doubt it.
Clueless fool.
If “more guns result in more crimes” as you claim, please explain why Chicago and Washington DC, which have the stricktest anti-gun laws on the books, also have the highest gun crime rates?
And in your own nation, you have among the highest per capita gun ownership in the developed world, yet you have less gun violence than in countries with fewer guns. How does that statistic support your claim?
We don’t answer to Sweden.
Well maybe your bikini team. 😉
Fool, why does the rest of the world want to come here? At least you are keeping your sorry ass in Sweden. Please help us evil terrible freedom loving AMERICAN patriots and tell everyone you can to just stay the fuck out of my country. Freedom comes at a price. You can have your loser European life. Go make some chocolate and go ski into a tree. To think of all the lives lost in the 40’s to keep freedoms in counties like yours makes me sick you ingrate. We shold have left you and your kind to be run by the powers of the time (Hitler)and just took care of keeping the west free and safe.
We don’t give a sh_t what you think Per – Sweden. Why don’t your statement is ridiculous. You clearly don’t know the facts, or the research that correctly calls your statement bullshite. If the rest of the world shakes their heads and laughs at us, why do so many want to come here. Because it isn’t true. You pansy assed Europeans still have penis envy because we’ve had to come save your asses so many times because you don’t have the balls to stand up to anyone and fight your own battles. We saw what happend to Europe during the last two world wars, pathetic pansy ass pu_ _ ies.
I don’t belive that guns are the problem here. The problem is the way these guns are stored. A friend of mine is a hunter and own rifles. He keep said rifles in locked rifle cabinets and the key to the cabinet is stored in a safe. That way only he can get to the rifles. What i understand a fair amount of US citizens have their guns laying around the house. Within reach of, lets call them, degenerates.
Erik, that is what the liars in the lame stream media and the politicians want you to believe. My guns aren’t quite that salted away but they are secure. No one is going to walk in and pick up a loaded gun in my house nor in 99.9% of other houses. One is within reach at all times but my grandkids don’t have access to any gun without my close supervision, even the teenagers. Crimes aren’t committed by responsible people, they are committed by evil people the problem in our nation is as I explained to Per Sweden, evil in the liberal way of thinking. Liberals find excuses to ignore “common sense” anything because their agenda is tyranny not safety.
I wish NRA would have published the NAMES of the commie-pinko-gun controllers instead of just their organizations. We “criminals” also need to know wheir addresses too, so we know where to go to pick up THEIR guns.
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You are dealing with cowards to get rent a cops for protection
Put my name on it: Joe Ellis. I’d be buying ATF agents donuts for life if they started confiscating guns.
Joe Ellis….I hope you are the next victim of a violent crime (with no way to defend yourself)…What an idiot…probably voted for Obama
That’s such a lovely thing to hope for, John. Your mother must be proud of you.
Why would the Journal News publishing the addresses of people with guns make them more likely to be robbed? If anything it just made the people on the list safer because what reasonable criminal would break into a house they KNOW has a gun.
because the addresses that were not own there per public record did not own a gun. so now the criminal knows what houses have guns
Because the criminals want to steal the guns – duh!
Won’t be buying my Valentine or any other card from Hallmark.
Southland corporation is not even a company anymore. However, 7-11 would like to know how they made the list.