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The testimony from Rob Doar at the Minnesota House Public Safety Finance and Policy Committee Hearing was a lesson in firearms that every gun control advocate needs to see. Unfortunately, several Democrat legislators, including the author of the bill to ban such firearms and equipment, felt it was unnecessary to be a part of the discussion.
Doar is a firearms expert and testified in opposition to proposed legislation that would ban certain firearms, limit ammunition capacities, require additional annual background checks and in-home gun storage inspections, firearm confiscation, as well as other measures to restrict the lawful possession of firearms in Minnesota.
Hundreds of pro-Second Amendment activists have attended the Public Safety Committee hearings that will wrap up Thursday evening. Representative Michael Paymar (D), Chair of the committee, has said that all of the gun control bills being discussed will be “laid over” for inclusion into a larger omnibus bill later in the month.
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Supporters and detractors of new gun control legislation showed up in great numbers Tuesday for the first of three days of hearings on the topic at the State Office Building in St. Paul, Minnesota, opposite the capitol.
The hearings began at 10 a.m. on Tuesday, with testimony scheduled throughout the day, Wednesday and Thursday. The halls were packed with supporters on both sides of the issue. The auditorium was overcrowded, making it necessary to open three more rooms to the public, where those gathered watched the testimony on TV. Those who could not fit in the viewing rooms or the auditorium gathered in the halls and debated with one another, or were swarmed by local media.
The hearings are being conducted by the House Public Safety Finance and Policy Committee. The
committee consists of 11 DFL House Members and Seven Republicans. The committee chairman is DFL Rep. Michael Paymar.
Rep. Tony Cornish-R, who is the Republican Lead for the committee, commented on the nature of the hearings when we reached out to him on information about these hearings.
In his reply e-mail, Cornish wrote,” Dear Friend, I am a life member of the NRA and sponsor or co-sponsor of every major gun rights bill in the last 10 years.”
” I don’t plan on giving an inch in the upcoming battle to take away our constitutional rights. I believe this is a huge smoke screen coming up where the anti-gun people will throw everything but the kitchen sink at us in the way of gun control bills and then try to give a fake compromise solution to then go after the alleged “gun show” loophole, which really takes away our right to sell or trade guns privately to friends or family members without background checks and registration…
“We need to fight against this and you can bet I will. Stay strong and come to the hearings, Feb 5th, 6th, and 7th at 10 am in the State Office Building in St. Paul.”
crossposted from The American Millennium Online
The National Sheriff’s Association has come out saying that they do not support liberal Democrat’s proposals for gun control.
It appears that the only group still delusional about how to curb gun violence is the White House (oh, and Mayor Bloomberg).
As Harry Reid bolts from Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s renewed push to ban so-called assault weapons, other senators, including Pat Leahy and Al Franken, may politick their way into killing the bill in committee. As Ed Morrissey of Hot Air posted yesterday,
No one thought Reid would be excited to support a new assault-weapons ban. He didn’t support the last one, and he’s been non-committal over the last several weeks even while his fellow Democrats have publicly demanded a new ban. Leahy’s reluctance should probably not be surprising, either; Vermont has a lot of gun owners, and voters there support nearly unrestricted gun rights.
However, Leahy chairs the Judiciary Committee, which is where Feinstein’s bill will have to find approval to reach a floor vote — or more likely, a filibuster. That committee also includes Amy Klobuchar and Al Franken from Minnesota. Klobuchar easily won re-election and might vote to pass a ban out of committee, but Franken has to face Minnesota voters next year — voters who are also gun-rights supporters. Franken has said little about Feinstein’s proposal except that he supports a renewal of the assault-weapons ban “in principle.” If Leahy is not on board, Franken might protect himself with a no vote (or perhaps an abstention). Assuming the Republicans on the committee oppose it, Feinstein’s bill may never get out of committee at all.
Morrissey concluded that we may have dodged a bullet (sorry for the pun) with the failure of this new anti-gun push since the constitutionally questionable ATF would’ve enforced it. Let’s see what their latest efforts into gun control yielded in the streets of Milwaukee.
…the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports, they [ATF] seem to have enough trouble handling the laws they enforce now:
A store calling itself Fearless Distributing opened early last year on an out-of-the-way street in Milwaukee’s Riverwest neighborhood, offering designer clothes, athletic shoes, jewelry and drug paraphernalia.
Those working behind the counter, however, weren’t interested in selling anything.
They were undercover agents from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives running a storefront sting aimed at busting criminal operations in the city by purchasing drugs and guns from felons.
But the effort to date has not snared any major dealers or taken down a gang. Instead, it resulted in a string of mistakes and failures, including an ATF military-style machine gun landing on the streets of Milwaukee and the agency having $35,000 in merchandise stolen from its store, a Journal Sentinel investigation has found.
When the 10-month operation was shut down after the burglary, agents and Milwaukee police officers who participated in the sting cleared out the store but left behind a sensitive document that listed names, vehicles and phone numbers of undercover agents.
And the agency remains locked in a battle with the building’s owner, who says he is owed about $15,000 because of utility bills, holes in the walls, broken doors and damage from an overflowing toilet.
So, this is an epic fail. It’s no wonder people have t-shirts, bumper stickers, and internet memes that say Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
ATF has a hazy history. Besides Ruby Ridge, Waco, and its controversial gunwalking operations into Mexico, ATF’s operations have been criticized as excessive and unconstitutional. Before the 1986 Firearms Owners Protection Act, 75% of the bureau’s prosecutions were “constitutionally improper,” according to an official Congressional investigation. As David Kopel, who recently testified for the Senate Judiciary Committee on gun violence this week, wrote for National Review back in 2009, as a response to The American Prospect’s blog about his use of the 75% statistic:
The 75-percent figure comes from a unanimous 1982 report of the Senate Subcommittee on the Constitution. After detailing a litany of statistics and case studies showing extreme and extensive abuse by BATF, the subcommittee’s reportturned to BATF’s counterarguments:
The rebuttal presented to the Subcommittee by the Bureau was utterly unconvincing. Richard Davis, speaking on behalf of the Treasury Department, asserted vaguely that the Bureau’s priorities were aimed at prosecuting willful violators, particularly felons illegally in possession, and at confiscating only guns actually likely to be used in crime. He also asserted that the Bureau has recently made great strides toward achieving these priorities. No documentation was offered for either of these assertions. In hearings before BATF’s Appropriations Subcommittee, however, expert evidence was submitted establishing that approximately 75 percent of BATF gun prosecutions were aimed at ordinary citizens who had neither criminal intent nor knowledge, but were enticed by agents into unknowing technical violations. (In one case, in fact, the individual was being prosecuted for an act which the Bureau’s acting director had stated was perfectly lawful.) In those hearings, moreover, BATF conceded that in fact (1) only 9.8 percent of their firearm arrests were brought on felons in illicit possession charges; (2) the average value of guns seized was $116, whereas BATF had claimed that “crime guns” were priced at less than half that figure; (3) in the months following the announcement of their new “priorities”, the percentage of gun prosecutions aimed at felons had in fact fallen by a third, and the value of confiscated guns had risen. All this indicates that the Bureau’s vague claims, both of focus upon gun-using criminals and of recent reforms, are empty words.
Yeah, I don’t think nominating a director to head this bureau is a national priority.
(H/T Ed Morrissey)
It would behoove us to consider, when pondering the option of equipping teachers with fire-arms, that Americans in favor of such proposals are not suggesting the distribution of weapons in the same manner that the students receive their books on the first day of school.
No one recommending that administrators call the teachers down to the shop class to pick up their Glocks, holsters, and loaded bullet cartridges before the students arrive in the morning.
What is being suggested (and not strongly enough, for it is this writer’s opinion that it should be DEMANDED) is for teachers to be permitted to carry in states whose laws prevent such measures.
I have learned of only four states that allow individuals to carry licensed concealed weapons to school: Utah, New Hampshire, Oregon, and Hawaii. In fact, ABCNews.com posted an article in December displaying pictures of teachers during a training session.
If there are only four states in this union that permit the lawful carrying of concealed weapons on school property, then that means there are forty-six states that do not.
Do Americans; do YOU, fully realize the implications of this? Do we stop to count how many children are at risk, I wonder…?
In taking measures to protect our children from harm, (banning guns on school property) we have indirectly placed them, along with their administrators and teachers, in the cross-hairs of the lunatic’s scope.
There are unstable individuals in this nation whose behavior can not be predicted.
Heartless, brutal, bloody, evil people…
They are people who have found a place to take out their frustrations on defenseless people of all ages in a most aggressive manner.
For the government of forty-plus states to deny their adult men and women the ability to defend themselves – and our children at the same time – with the insulting assumption that they will not be able to handle the same simple fire-arm that many twelve year old children can shoot, is not only preposterous, it is evil – a sabotaging of the safety of the American man, woman, and child.
At that point it becomes, not the unstable aggressor that is the killer, but the one who wrenched a means of self-defense out of the hands of the victim, before they could wrap their more than capable fingers around it.
For one to willfully deny an adult the ability to defend themselves properly, is to indirectly thrust them into the line of fire with their own hands.
I would not want that on my conscience.
As each new day dawns, there seems to be a new argument against allowing responsible adults the ability to protect themselves and our own children.
If we do not speak up – if we do not make the phone calls to Congress that need to be made – then not only will the rights of stable adults continue to be at risk, but their very lives, and the lives of our children as well.
No, you didn’t misread that title. Yes, there are leftists out there that think unloaded guns can hurt people. And yes, unfortunately, those leftists are in office!
If this doesn’t go viral……
Well, all I can say is that I hope this California Councilwoman doesn’t have any aspirations to move up in the political world. Here’s hoping she can continue to afford her botox bills without moving up, shall we?
True to their Alinsky roots, they are ready, willing and eager to demonize gun owners and Second Amendment proponents by disparagingly using the term “gun lobby” to describe them. It is no secret that they are openly hostile to the Constitutionally protected Right of Americans to keep and bear arms.
They are also primed and ready when it comes to attacking Capitalism. “progressives” persistently promote the notions that guns kill people and that Capitalism is inherently greedy and corrupt.
By applying this illogic to other situations, it would be required to conclude that computers keyboards are responsible for misspelled words and silverware causes obesity in America.
It would be quite entertaining to hear a “progressive” attempt to relay, in minute detail, the sequence of events on that monumental day when an unattended gun jumped up all by itself and shot an innocent child.
It would be equally fascinating to hear a “progressive” convey exactly how an economic system, without the benefit of human involvement, engaged in illicit price gouging, ponzi schemes or criminal quid quo pro transactions.
The fact of the matter is, the way a gun shoots anything is by a human being picking it up, aiming it and pulling the trigger. The problem is not the gun, it is with the killer behind the gun.
In similar fashion, the only way any economic delivery system leads to unlawful behavior is through the involvement of the criminal mind.
The answers are not found in gun control or ending Capitalism. The answer is to catch the perpetrators of the crimes and lock them away from society.
There’s a reason why moving slow on legislation is good. If it’s too big, or you do it too fast, you often complicate the problem. New York has just passed the most stringent anti-gun laws on the books. Yes, government did something! However, as progressives crack open the champagne, they forgot to exempt law enforcement on the measure banning high-capacity magazines. Then every single cop in New York has essentially broken the law. The new law limits firearm magazines to seven-rounds in New York.
According to Jim Hoffer of ABC Eyewitness News, “as the statute is currently written, it does not exempt law enforcement officers. Nearly every law enforcement agency in the state carries handguns that have a 15 round capacity. A spokesman for the governor’s office called Eyewitness News to say, ‘We are still working out some details of the law and the exemption will be included, currently no police officer is in violation.”
Mental health experts say a new tougher New York state gun control law might interfere with treatment of potentially dangerous people and even discourage them from seeking help.
The law would require therapists, doctors, nurses and social workers to tell government authorities if they believe a patient is likely to harm himself or others. That could lead to revoking the patient’s gun permit and seizing any guns…
“The people who arguably most need to be in treatment and most need to feel free to talk about these disturbing impulses, may be the ones we make least likely to do so,” said the director of law, ethics and psychiatry at Columbia. “They will either simply not come, or not report the thoughts that they have.”
“If people with suicidal or homicidal impulses avoid treatment for fear of being reported in this way, they may be more likely to act on those impulses,” he said
That’s a solid result for gun control. The police are momentarily in limbo legally and the threat to the public might actually increase as would-be spree killers decide it’s now too risky to seek therapy. Get Cuomo’s office a video camera and a group of kids reading letters about gun control, stat.
Originally posted on PJ Tatler.
Obama’s Gun Control Strategy a Recipe for Disaster
Reasons why millions should oppose the comprehensive gun control measures and associated executive orders pursued by the President.
Storified by Jeremy Griffith· Wed, Jan 16 2013 20:06:00
The Second Amendment is not about hunting. It is about the Right of the American people to prevent the likes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Diane Feinstein, Andrew Cuomo et al from obtaining unrestrained power.
It is about the power of the people to prevent their being rounded up and put in gulags and/or concentration camps.
The American people are not demanding gun control. NRA membership has increased by a quarter of a million in the past month.
The American people are demanding that the tyrannical government of Barack Hussein Obama and his “progressive” co-conspirators back away from their ongoing assault on the God given Rights protected by the United States Constitution.
A “progressive” government tyrannical enough to empower the Attorney General of the United States of America to put automatic weapons in the hands of Mexican drug cartels so discovering those guns at the scene of Mexican crimes would justify gun control in the United States is fully capable of the most egregious actions imaginable. There is a high probability that the recent outbreak of mass shootings have been tactically planned and carried out as part of the long term “progressive” strategy to disarm Americans.
Gun control advocates repeatedly ask questions like: “Why should ordinary people be allowed to own semi-automatic weapons?” “Ordinary people” are the people referred to in the preamble of the U.S. Constitution as We the People. We the People are not “allowed” to own semi-automatic weapons. It is the Right of the people to keep and bear arms; a Right that “shall not be infringed.”
For a tyrannical “progressive” government, which possesses the most deadly weapons in the history of human civilization to dictate that We the People cannot own the weapons necessary to prevent that very same tyrannical “progressive” government from imposing the will of an oligarchy of self-imagined, self-appointed intellectual elites upon an opposing population is as much proof of out of control un-restrained government power any Patriotic American needs to say NO.
Not one step further.
Not the passage of one more unread bill. Not one more day without a budget. Not one more borrowed dollar spent on “progressive” big government socialist programs.
Stop it. Stop it now.
You have been warned.
“Dear Leader” President Barack Hussein Obama, on January 14, 2012, said, “My understanding is the vice president is going to provide a range of steps that we can do to prevent gun violence. Some of them will require legislation. Some of them I can accomplish through executive action.” [emphasis mine]
And, Obama plans to unveil his gun violence proposals at 11:45 a.m. Wednesday (January 16, 2013) at the White House. [again, emphasis mine] Obama’s proposals include 19 (count ’em, 19) executive orders (EO) that Vice President “One Heartbeat Away From Being President” Joe Biden has recommended. All EOs focus upon gun control.
I was in the Army for 22 years. I have been around guns of all types (pistols, rifles, shotguns, even [gasp!] M-16 assault rifles with [double gasp!] 20-round magazines) all of my life. I taught my daughters and son to shoot a shotgun when they were safely (IMHO) able to hold it. Never once did any gun, of its own accord, act violently. And, I have never seen or heard from the (always unbiased) MSM of any gun, of its own accord, acting violently. So, I must conclude that both Obama and Biden have chosen a target that cannot speak for itself or defend itself. Yet, through a lap-dog MSM, Obama will announce his plans to curb (non-existent) gun violence through gun control. The real issue, though Obama and Biden will be loathe to admit it, is control.
True, the shooting in Newtown, CT, were tragic. But why not place the blame where it belongs: Adam Lanza? Lanza, not the guns, was violent. The gun(s) Lanza used did not act of their own accord. The gun(s) Lanza used cannot speak for themselves. But you can bet that Lanza has secured a loud mouth lawyer who will advise Lanza to plead “temporary insanity” and hit the cable TV “news” circuit. And that is what Obama, Biden, and the MSM will play up.
But preventing violence is simply not on Obama’s or Biden’s agenda. They have chosen a target to demagogue that cannot speak for itself, cannot protest the daily violence perpetrated against them. Did you know that there are an estimated 3,562 abortions each day? That is equivalent to 178 Newtown shootings each day. Abortions are certainly violent, especially to the fetus being murdered, I mean legally aborted.
Prevent gun violence? Obama’s way to prevent it is to control guns. Prevent violence? No way.
But that’s just my opinion.
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1/15/13 Ben Howe of Red State and Mr.Smith Media joins me to discuss gun control; What Would Jesus Do? Plus, I’ll talk about my experience on the Dr. Phil show that will air this Friday on the topic of “Slut-Shaming”. Join us tonight at 10pm ET/7pm Pacific on the CDNews Network on BlogTalk Radio.
(Video open letter to Minnesota Representatives and Congress people from Mills Fleet Farm of Minnesota. )
I found the open letter to our Minnesota Representatives from Stewart Mills of Mills Fleet Farm to be informative and powerful. They bravely make the argument for the ownership of sporting rifles currently the target of gun ban legislation. I applaud the courage of Mills Fleet Farm in sharing this message with us, they are a great Minnesota company that employ thousands right here at home.
Take a look at this interesting companion article from Rick Kupchella’s blog BringMeTheNews.com here.
A Scottsdale gun manufacturer had a run-in with Bank of America. Joe Sirochman, is owner American Spirit Arms, which manufactures and sells rifles. Like other gun makers Sirochman saw a huge increase in sales last month.
KFYI: Due to the sudden increase in revenue, Sirochman tells KFYI News that Bank of America began putting his deposits on hold out of concern that they might be fraudulent. The bank told him that the deposits would be released after 48 hours.
But according to Sirochman, “48 hours turned into another 48 hours, which turned into a week, then two weeks.” He says his company was in a pinch because it needed that revenue to operate and to pay its own bills.
Sirochman called Bank of America again to complain, and ended up talking to a manager who told him the bank had concerns about his company’s product. “It’s because we sell guns and parts on the internet, and they believe we shouldn’t be selling guns and parts on the internet,” he said.
Sirochman is now in the process of moving his business to a locally owned bank.