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I Was Wrong, There is No War on Religion!

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  1. Jon says:

    Sorry, but this is just whining.

    The baker was not arrested, fined, kept from running his business in any way. He did something that was rude, and he hid behind his religious beliefs. He was essentially blaming his homophobia on God. He got a lot of negative press, the same way he would have if he had refused to bake a cake for a mixed race couple.

    All this other nonsense about getting a cake with a bible verse…if you want to find a gay baker to make a point, go to. I think that’s a pretty lame way to spend your time and money, but they are your time and your money. Also, making a pastry espousing a backwards belief from the bronze age…that too is a lame waste of resources.

    As for the photographer…what are you talking about? Who has a wedding where the theme is “Well, at least this isn’t a gay wedding?” What are these ridiculous hypothetical situations? I mean, you seem to be angry that gay people just exist and want to be members of society.

    If you owned a store and refused to serve people you would suffer a loss in business. People talk about how they are treated in a business. Also, these examples you are giving relate directly to weddings. This is why religion comes up. You realize that, right? It’s not a hard connection to make.

    You mention the right of Muslim women to wear the garb that their religion requires them to wear in order to be in public. It should be noted that they are fighting to win that right, and I’m sure they believe they should be able to express their religious belief by wearing something on their head the same way a christian would want to wear some sort of Christian tchochkes.

    I have not heard about menorah’s being removed from public places. But you have to admit that Jewish symbols are not generally as pervasive as Christian symbols. I cannot think of a single public menorah anywhere.

    Anyhow. Sir, this entire article is ridiculous. Go pray somewhere and see who tries to stop you. The answer is no one. No one will care unless you are doing it out loud and being annoying about it. If you are simply using your religion as a reason to be homophobic, might I suggest you are doing it wrong?

    • Robert Leonardo says:

      Hey Jon,

      Aside from what you think are snarky remarks, what Joe has written about has happened and is patently a viloation of these business owners religious freedoms. I have the right as a human being to follow my religious convictions, and I do not lose that right owning a business, going to public school, serving in the military, or anything else.

      Your final comment is telling. “Go pray somewhere and see who tries to stop you. The answer is no one. No one will care unless you are doing it out loud and being annoying about it. If you are simply using your religion as a reason to be homophobic”

      Do you mean Christians have the right to be Christians as long you are silent about it, keep it muffled, stay hidden, in church at home–just don’t come to the public square–because you don’t belong their…?

      I hope you rethink your biased, and rather angry position.

      Thanks for your read, Jon.
      Bob

      • Jon says:

        No, my position is fine. These people who you seem to want to write a folk song about or something, discriminate against a couple and there are consequences. Sorry. I’m going to throw out the idea that being Christian is not synonymous with anti-gay, and I have no problem with people having religious beliefs (nor does anyone else) but to use your Christianity to support your homophobia is not cool. For the same reason my conservative father will never see a Sean Penn movie because of his beliefs, these companies will face a major backlash over these practices. And your rights are yours until they encroach upon others. A gay couple getting married does not affect your Christianity even slightly. I’m sorry. It does not. It is not your business.

        As for the whole “Do you mean Christians have the right to be Christians as long you are silent about it, keep it muffled, stay hidden, in church at home–just don’t come to the public square–because you don’t belong their…?” business, yeah, be obnoxious about ANYTHING and see how tolerant others are. As for the public square, it depends on what you are doing on the public square, and if you are using public money to do it. I don’t think anyone should have to pay taxes to support your Christianity. I don’t think that this position is radical, angry, or controversial.

  2. Stoccado says:

    Kinda like saying that the house is not on fire because none of the others are burning…and it goes without saying fires spread.