GOP Establishment Vs. The Conservative Base; Your Social Issues Gotta Go

By | November 8, 2012

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6 thoughts on “GOP Establishment Vs. The Conservative Base; Your Social Issues Gotta Go

  1. slowdownnn

    it’s going to be very hard to attract new and young voters while social conservative principles are still a broadcasted and central feature of the Republican party, and a talking point of Republican candidates. Why? The internet and the overall information exposure in modern day society. This isn’t changing, it’s not getting reversed: it’s here to stay. Children now grow up in a world where they are inevitably exposed to a far broader swath of moral and social viewpoints, all the time, and a far more rapid exchange of information. exposure leads directly to desensitization, and desensitization leads to tolerance or indifference. furthermore, I believe there is a general trend towards social liberalization. Once people get used to something as a “norm” the tendency is for that to not easily get reversed. While we’ve had a pretty even split of both liberal and conservative governments over the past 100 years or so, society has proceded to expand the scope of social norms and mores. Examples include trying and failing to reverse the norm of legal drinking, the steady trend towards acceptance of homosexuality, the legalization of abortion, the increasing prominence of open sexuality in the media, the trend towards the legalization of marijuana, the expansion of the pornography industry, the expansion of racial tolerance, etc. These things happened under both conservative and liberal administrations, and around the world as a whole. I think it’s just a human trait that once we get used to something we are no longer that bothered by it; each successive generation grows up a little bit more used to this changing social environment. It’s going to get harder and harder to convince people that they should spend their energy on these topics and get emotionally invested in them, especially when most of them do not have significant obvious economic impacts. and then you have the thorny-nature of discussing these topics in public… for example what happens to a candidate when they make an easily-misinterperable comment about “legitimate rape” etc. furthermore, stricter laws governing personal freedoms looks hypocritical from the outside when viewed in the context of a party that is supposed to be primarily focused on greater individual liberty and small government.

  2. Jan Brown

    Rebecca’s voice is on of sound ‘reasoning’ whether you agree or not. Her thoughts reflect a desire to be part of the solution…not the problem.
    Of course there are a lot of problems & we sure missed something. I’m pretty certain that there are thoes that will throw rocks in the path of progress. We can either get around them or stand & worry ‘who’ put them there. ..so to WJS & others that share his concerns, take heart…reconstruction is done one step at a time…one ‘situation'(not problem) at a time. IF all will throw thought out solutions & we stir them around & mix them up we will end up with something that tastes good to the majority. It start with a self exam

    1. W.J. Spangler

      Couldn’t agree more! I’m frustrated that I see conservatives doing nothing more than throwing out platitudes and not offering solutions.

      So we see a “situation” with the Latino vote. Where do we go?

      1. Jan Brown

        You know WJS, We’re actually ask the same question, “Where do we go from here?” & I suspect look for the same answer. At this point, I’ve stopped asking WHAT went wrong & started asking What did I do wrong? Ego? perhaps, but it give me a starting point. I live in Texas, surrounded like the ocean by good legal Hispanic voters. I worked like crazy on Ted Cruz’s campaign. I made speeches ,for the GOP ticket at several organizations…I wrote editorials, block walked…..not one of these were directed toward primarily Hispanic! I did not reach out, I stayed in my self designed comfort zone with those of like mind & preached to the chior.Accepting this, allows me to correct it.
        I agree, being more inclusive is important, but is less law better law? Will lowered standards not also lower standings? You spoke of ‘education’ so as an example, Has lowering the acceptable passing grade, made more educated graduate or just more graduates? The ONLY issue I take with your thinking is the statement you make is in #5 “What difference does it make anyway?” If that is true. Why bother? People like you & I are part of the solution if we all work at it. Retired Alan Simpson (old coger, but sharp)said “If you can’t learn to compromise, don’t get married” We don’t need to lower our standards or sacrifice our core principals to get this done.Thanks for your participation, your thinking helps my thinking.

  3. W.J. Spangler

    Ok, I think we still have some huge problems:

    1) Even assuming you get a 3M TP votes, how many votes do you drive away by running a far-right candidate?

    2) The Hispanic percentage of the vote will continue to grow. We can’t loose that demographic by 70+ percent and win.

    3) Do Hispanics consider the GOP an old white boys club BECAUSE of our position on immigration? If that position changed how do we know that would still be true?

    4) Isn’t the best way to “educate” Hispanics on conservative values to embrace them first? They will never listen if they consider us hostile to their most important issue. It will remain to easy for the other side to go in and say that we are being disingenuous because we never dealt with the primary issue. We are risking these people permanently aligning with the democrats unless we move now.

    5) What difference does it make anyway. Hispanics are here and are contributing to a shadow economy. Let’s get them paying taxes and not just being a burden to society. A group will consider itself downtrodden for only so long before it just checks out altogether. (see African-Americans as an example) Once that happens, there is no hope for redemption for them.

    Normalize, then educate. We can win this battle.

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