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		<title>By: ben marshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...at least 51 of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention were members of Christian churches, and that leading American political figures in the founding era quoted the Bible far more than any other source&quot;. John Eidsmoe

Here is Thomas Jefferson&#039;s prioritized  belief structure as found in the DOI:
God
God created
God created man
God created man equal
God through natural law, has granted man inalienable rights
These are therefore &quot;self evident&quot;
and &quot;we hold these truths&quot; AKA absolutes.
Truths which need to be held imply a need to protect them. To protect them against &quot;artificial rules&quot; was his phraseology.

And he said and our forefathers said many times of His proclamations &quot;In The Year OF Our Lord&quot;
He was a deist in youth, personally grappling with Jesus authority for his life, but not His divinity and wisdom, but one that was Christianized by default. But as it is with all men, we draw near to our deepest honesty as we near the veil of death:

 “Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern, which have come under my observation, none appear to be so pure as that of Jesus.”
Letter to William Canby, Sept 18,1813 ~Thomas Jefferson 70 years old

“Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as purely as they came from his lips the whole civilized world would now have been Christian”.
Jefferson’s letter to Benjamin Waterhouse June 26, 1822 79 years old]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;at least 51 of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention were members of Christian churches, and that leading American political figures in the founding era quoted the Bible far more than any other source&#8221;. John Eidsmoe</p>
<p>Here is Thomas Jefferson&#8217;s prioritized  belief structure as found in the DOI:<br />
God<br />
God created<br />
God created man<br />
God created man equal<br />
God through natural law, has granted man inalienable rights<br />
These are therefore &#8220;self evident&#8221;<br />
and &#8220;we hold these truths&#8221; AKA absolutes.<br />
Truths which need to be held imply a need to protect them. To protect them against &#8220;artificial rules&#8221; was his phraseology.</p>
<p>And he said and our forefathers said many times of His proclamations &#8220;In The Year OF Our Lord&#8221;<br />
He was a deist in youth, personally grappling with Jesus authority for his life, but not His divinity and wisdom, but one that was Christianized by default. But as it is with all men, we draw near to our deepest honesty as we near the veil of death:</p>
<p> “Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern, which have come under my observation, none appear to be so pure as that of Jesus.”<br />
Letter to William Canby, Sept 18,1813 ~Thomas Jefferson 70 years old</p>
<p>“Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as purely as they came from his lips the whole civilized world would now have been Christian”.<br />
Jefferson’s letter to Benjamin Waterhouse June 26, 1822 79 years old</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 00:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, if you wanted to be fair, you could&#039;ve included MLK or Gandhi or William Jennings Bryan. Of course, you don&#039;t want to be fair, do you, Kyle? I could do the same thing with Augustine, Luther, Jefferson, Washington, Jesus, Reagan, Rand, etc... You name it. Aristotle thought slavery was a good idea and you&#039;re pretty keen on him. What does that say about you? (And by the way, I say YOU, Kyle. Not conservatives or Republicans. You specifically, I wouldn&#039;t slander an entire group because I don&#039;t like ideas of a writer that group might not even identify with. You know who else did that? Hitl... See, that&#039;s disgusting. But how is that any different than what you&#039;ve done in this essay?)

History is a beautiful topic that has many amazing people in it. All of those people had ideas that were disgusting. That doesn&#039;t discount all of their ideas. What&#039;s more, it doesn&#039;t indict other people who find their ideas fascinating. To attempt to do so isn&#039;t being &quot;irreverent&quot;. It&#039;s being cowardly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if you wanted to be fair, you could&#8217;ve included MLK or Gandhi or William Jennings Bryan. Of course, you don&#8217;t want to be fair, do you, Kyle? I could do the same thing with Augustine, Luther, Jefferson, Washington, Jesus, Reagan, Rand, etc&#8230; You name it. Aristotle thought slavery was a good idea and you&#8217;re pretty keen on him. What does that say about you? (And by the way, I say YOU, Kyle. Not conservatives or Republicans. You specifically, I wouldn&#8217;t slander an entire group because I don&#8217;t like ideas of a writer that group might not even identify with. You know who else did that? Hitl&#8230; See, that&#8217;s disgusting. But how is that any different than what you&#8217;ve done in this essay?)</p>
<p>History is a beautiful topic that has many amazing people in it. All of those people had ideas that were disgusting. That doesn&#8217;t discount all of their ideas. What&#8217;s more, it doesn&#8217;t indict other people who find their ideas fascinating. To attempt to do so isn&#8217;t being &#8220;irreverent&#8221;. It&#8217;s being cowardly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mune Shadowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mune Shadowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sigmund Freud was a sexual deviant, and very much per-occupied with it.  
Gyorgy Lukacs what he was teaching is being practiced through our public &quot;Fool&quot; system today and is working his theory rather well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigmund Freud was a sexual deviant, and very much per-occupied with it.<br />
Gyorgy Lukacs what he was teaching is being practiced through our public &#8220;Fool&#8221; system today and is working his theory rather well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Griffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 17:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, Kyle. Great article. It looks like you have done a lot of research for this one. I enjoyed it very much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Kyle. Great article. It looks like you have done a lot of research for this one. I enjoyed it very much.</p>
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		<title>By: news</title>
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		<dc:creator>news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 09:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should really control the responses listed here]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should really control the responses listed here</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Becker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 02:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jurgen Habermas? Widely considered to be the most influential living embodiments of the Frankfurt School.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jurgen Habermas? Widely considered to be the most influential living embodiments of the Frankfurt School.</p>
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		<title>By: py</title>
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		<dc:creator>py</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 06:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I rename this article, Just Picking Thirty Guys I Don&#039;t like. LOL HABERMAS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rename this article, Just Picking Thirty Guys I Don&#8217;t like. LOL HABERMAS.</p>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama &#8212; America Wants You to Just Go Away</title>
		<link>http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/05/meet-the-lefts-founding-fathers/comment-page-2/#comment-23793</link>
		<dc:creator>Barack Obama &#8212; America Wants You to Just Go Away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] this author pointed out in an article on the left&#8217;s &#8220;founding fathers,&#8221; Obama is the culmination and walking embodiment of neomarxist &#8220;Critical [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this author pointed out in an article on the left&#8217;s &#8220;founding fathers,&#8221; Obama is the culmination and walking embodiment of neomarxist &#8220;Critical [...]</p>
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		<title>By: hockeygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>hockeygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 21:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Ayn Rand considered Immanuel Kant to be the arch-enemy of reason, mind, truth, and happiness.&quot; &quot;These guys are all about hate, and evil.&quot; And Ayn Rand isn&#039;t about hate? Please! Not exactly the type of person I want to emulate. You have listed several men because of their atheism, so why does Ayn Rand (also an atheist) get a free ride? Is it because she is the champion of unfettered capitalism?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ayn Rand considered Immanuel Kant to be the arch-enemy of reason, mind, truth, and happiness.&#8221; &#8220;These guys are all about hate, and evil.&#8221; And Ayn Rand isn&#8217;t about hate? Please! Not exactly the type of person I want to emulate. You have listed several men because of their atheism, so why does Ayn Rand (also an atheist) get a free ride? Is it because she is the champion of unfettered capitalism?</p>
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		<title>By: AMS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 17:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;These men are insane. And the proof of it is they keep trying to do the same thing over and over again every year.&quot;

That&#039;s true of everybody, whatever their philosophy or politics.  Sometimes something works, sometimes it doesn&#039;t, but the idea that there&#039;s one answer or idea that will always work under any circumstances or with any problem is naive.

But a lot of these people weren&#039;t trying to &quot;do&quot; much of anything political.  Plato wasn&#039;t trying to force humanity into a utopian pattern.  Probably More wasn&#039;t either.  Their &quot;utopias&quot; were blueprints for some near future.  They were trying to make a point about philosophy or values.  

Kant was primarily concerned with thinking about thinking.  Such political ideas as he did have weren&#039;t totalitarian.  Schopenhauer really wasn&#039;t much concerned with politics at all.  Keynes was consummately political, but hardly totalitarian or truly left-wing.

Freud saw therapy as an answer, but was certainly very skeptical of political solutions and utopias.  That&#039;s the other side of a lot of the thinkers mentioned here.  Foucault, Derrida, Habermas, Adorno, (who wasn&#039;t Horkheimer&#039;s lover for heaven&#039;s sake) had their skeptical side  -- skeptical not just about religion, say, but also about political solutions.  That&#039;s something conservatives may not want to recognize, but it&#039;s there.  Maybe conservatism would be deeper or richer or at least more gracious if we recognized that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These men are insane. And the proof of it is they keep trying to do the same thing over and over again every year.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true of everybody, whatever their philosophy or politics.  Sometimes something works, sometimes it doesn&#8217;t, but the idea that there&#8217;s one answer or idea that will always work under any circumstances or with any problem is naive.</p>
<p>But a lot of these people weren&#8217;t trying to &#8220;do&#8221; much of anything political.  Plato wasn&#8217;t trying to force humanity into a utopian pattern.  Probably More wasn&#8217;t either.  Their &#8220;utopias&#8221; were blueprints for some near future.  They were trying to make a point about philosophy or values.  </p>
<p>Kant was primarily concerned with thinking about thinking.  Such political ideas as he did have weren&#8217;t totalitarian.  Schopenhauer really wasn&#8217;t much concerned with politics at all.  Keynes was consummately political, but hardly totalitarian or truly left-wing.</p>
<p>Freud saw therapy as an answer, but was certainly very skeptical of political solutions and utopias.  That&#8217;s the other side of a lot of the thinkers mentioned here.  Foucault, Derrida, Habermas, Adorno, (who wasn&#8217;t Horkheimer&#8217;s lover for heaven&#8217;s sake) had their skeptical side  &#8212; skeptical not just about religion, say, but also about political solutions.  That&#8217;s something conservatives may not want to recognize, but it&#8217;s there.  Maybe conservatism would be deeper or richer or at least more gracious if we recognized that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 16:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How does one fight this many headed beast upon our land?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does one fight this many headed beast upon our land?</p>
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		<title>By: Lev Lafayette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lev Lafayette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 13:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martin Heidegger?! He&#039;s about as conservative as they come.. 

Also, do you think you could list any more Jews as belonging to the evil socialist left?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin Heidegger?! He&#8217;s about as conservative as they come.. </p>
<p>Also, do you think you could list any more Jews as belonging to the evil socialist left?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 10:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, Keynes was about as centre-right (conservative) as you can get. He saw himself as saving capitalism. Niezche was psdeu-Nazi. Chomsky has attacked Obama on occasion, seeing (rightly) your two party system (both parties rightist) as a farce. Obama has extended the Bush tax cuts. Most anarchists would not consider Lenin to be on the left. 
To be brutally honest your &quot;Founding Fathers&quot; are a joke. Rebels and lawbreakers. The French Revolution was based on American one. Rospierre was one of your lot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, Keynes was about as centre-right (conservative) as you can get. He saw himself as saving capitalism. Niezche was psdeu-Nazi. Chomsky has attacked Obama on occasion, seeing (rightly) your two party system (both parties rightist) as a farce. Obama has extended the Bush tax cuts. Most anarchists would not consider Lenin to be on the left.<br />
To be brutally honest your &#8220;Founding Fathers&#8221; are a joke. Rebels and lawbreakers. The French Revolution was based on American one. Rospierre was one of your lot.</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
		<link>http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/05/meet-the-lefts-founding-fathers/comment-page-2/#comment-22298</link>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 00:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t even read the text in front of you. Don&#039;t leave the mountains, you might find the valleys a threat to your view of reality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t even read the text in front of you. Don&#8217;t leave the mountains, you might find the valleys a threat to your view of reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
		<link>http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/05/meet-the-lefts-founding-fathers/comment-page-1/#comment-22260</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 22:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The most telling line of his memoir&quot;
Also the only one you&#039;ve ever read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The most telling line of his memoir&#8221;<br />
Also the only one you&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
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