Occupy Wall Street Releases Totally Reasonable Demands

By | October 4, 2011

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  1. Message from David

    Dear OWS, Let me be clear,

    Despite his profound incompetence on many levels, Obama has been an adept propagandist who has blamed capitalism for problems caused and magnified by socialist remedies to justify further socialist solutions. He’s now doing the same thing all over again as his new socialist solutions are failing.

    Obama not only eschews responsibility for his primary role in the nation’s economic and debt catastrophes but also is using class warfare to foment unrest in his malcontent leftist base and marshaling union thug muscle to attach a veneer of authenticity to Occupy Wall Street, a largely AstroTurf-like phenomenon. Indeed, Obama practically expressed common cause with the protesters at his recent presser and certainly did nothing to calm their ostensible fears.

    To appreciate the surreal nature of Occupy Wall Street, you have to watch a few video interviews of some of the protesters and review a laundry list of their complaints. These misguided people are like probation violators castigating their probation officers for catering to their pleas for leniency.

    They are taking up all the popular causes of liberalism as they protest against problems spawned by those very causes. They shake their fists at Wall Street, banks, corporations and the wealthy “1 percent,” which had little to do with our national nightmare. But they give a complete pass to government and even demand that it be given more power to further destroy what still does work in America.

    Nothing illustrates their collective cluelessness more than their fulminating against the national debt while demanding a redoubling of the policies and programs that caused it and will make it immeasurably worse.

    Obama is laughing all the way to the evil bank, hoping he can continue to capitalize on this very type of chaos and class envy to eke out re-election in 2012. Obama’s protesters are occupying Wall Street while he is occupying America.

  2. Anonymous

    The blog is misleading. The site clearly says:

    “Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands.”

    See http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/

  3. Anonymous; expect us

    Kira,

    Your stream-of-straw-man comment about protesters whom you don’t know is fact-free. It’s not worth more than ranting rhetorical conjecture. Look, I stopped working for other people more than 10 years ago having owned several corporations operating businesses. I know what being responsible for making payroll every month is. I paid for my college into grad school using the military educational benefits I earned. I’m not whining. I’m not mad at you either. (That’s all your twisted fantasy.) I am however, giving back to my community, as a protester and supporter of the Occupy movement. Your ignorance about the demographics of this movement is self-evident. You’ve watched too many mainstream news clips. Go get your broken compass fixed. It’s not your fault. Your FOXed-up news entertainment channel or whatever your navigation system is – its led you far off course.

  4. Todd

    If I may, I am seeing a very ill informed news media out there. For example, Their list of demands ACTUALLY include the following: (let us remember, these kids are fresh out of college with degrees in economics, and no way of paying their student loans. Not just a bunch of stoners like the old days. times have changed.
    Thank you for allowing me this say.
    1-INVESTIGATE, ARREST AND TRY THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS (Is bundling toxic debt into “AAA” status loans and leaving entire economies in ruin, illegal? one of many examples.
    2-CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION -(we really do need to get BIG MONEY out of our government from the top down, even Warren Buffett says that.
    3-ACTION ON GLASS-STEAGALL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act — Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act effectively removed the separation that previously existed between investment banking which issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their depositors’ money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms.
    4-CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES INCLUDING PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the rich pay their fair share.
    5-CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION AND STAFF IT AT HIGHEST AND LOWEST LEVELS WITH PROFESSIONALS WHO GET THE JOB DONE PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY OF THE MARKET THEREBY PROTECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND INVESTORS.
    6-RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON.
    7- CONGRESS ENACT SPECIFIC LAWS THAT EFFECTIVELY BUILD A WALL BETWEEN THE DEFENSE INDUSTRY AND THE U.S. MILITARY. If we’re going after corruption and also trying to reduce all the unnecessary wars that are costly in so many ways (most importantly costly in terms of human life on both sides), then this is the GRANDDADDY OF ALL REFORMS. Any of you who have seen the award winning widely popular documentary “Why We Fight” will realize the HUGE impact of this. Here’s a snippet of Eisenhower’s brave speech.

    “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.”

    Like I said, the news media is making them out to be a bunch of rag tag, bongo beating stoners, but I believe they are in many cases, VERY WELL EDUCATED. no way of paying off their student loans, and basically no future, and nearly everyone reading this knows this to be true.
    Good night,

    http://occupywallst.org/forum/specific-demand-and-action-list-for-washington-dc/

  5. J Martin

    This is not a list of demands by or representing the “occupy wall street crowd”. It is a proposed list of demands someone posted to their website. At most you could say this was laundry list by one person.

    It seems to be a result of the occupy wall street website and movement not being very concerned about censoring input even when it may involve venting, brainstorming, ironical expression, or whatever this list of supposed “demands” was intended to express.

    You may be doing yourself a disservice by inventing a straw man and framing it like the last word rather than trying to understand and report on reality. If you ever desire to leave this conservative cocoon to perform a useful a job as a real writer or reporter, get real.

    1. Kira Davis Post author

      I’m not a reporter. I’m a blogger. I write opinion. The only difference between me and Rachael Maddow is that I admit it. I am nothing more than a regular citizen writing about the things I find interesting. I have been following the movement. I’m the one rooted in reality, not people like you and other protesters. They actually think all corporations rule America and are evil – while they tweet on their corporately developed smart phones and post on their corporately developed computers (thank you Steve Jobs!). They don’t see the irony in asking for more jobs by asking the government to restrict the job makers. I pay my own bills and take responsibility for my own decisions. When I wanted to go to college I found a way to pay for it. When I couldn’t afford it anymore, I left until I could afford it again. I didn’t whine about how unfair the cost was. Its my decision to get an education or not, to accrue the cost or not. The reality is people like you have no clue what it takes to make a company work, produce anything useful or support a family. Don’t be mad at me because regular Americans are getting ahold of the idiotic things your “movement” is saying. You don’t like it, don’t read it.

      1. Nicole

        Thank you for stating what we (the average middle class americans who actually WORK in the real world) are thinking!! You can not expect big time coporations to just fold because people are camping on Wall Street. News Flash: They DO NOT give a sh*t! Unless they release a set of reasonable demands for select issues, they cannot expect anything to be accomplished! I mean hell, I hate some of the ppl running this government just as much as the next person. I pay a crap load in taxes and watch it go to bullshit programs and other ppl who have no plans to ever work a day in their lives. Do I think it is unfair? YES! Would I like to see a change? Certainly! However, camping out on Wall Street with no real specific demands does not solve anything!

        If I were out there I protest against Welfare, which was started in the 1930’s as a means to help get ppl back on their feet during the depression. Unfortunately, in todays world, ppl are taking advantge of it. Especially in more populated cities and states. I am all for a program to help ppl to get on thier feet, like for example a single mother with 3 kids who just got laid off, needs some assistance for a year or so. I get that! However, come to Philadelphia and see some of the ppl on Welfare who are perfectly healthy and able to work, just dont want to! It is basically passed from generation to generation, each one getting lazier and finding more creative ways to scam the system and suck every penny they can from social programs at the expense of hard working ppl! If you make stricter requirements for Welfare it will force the lazy scam artists to actually get a job! (and contribute to society) Also, if these Occupy kids are protesting civil/human rights they should protest the government to stop handing out money, grants, scholarships etc based on race, ethinicity or gender! Who is to say that a black female needs more tution assistance then myself, a white female who lives in the same neighborhood? If this country was built on the ideals that every man is created equal, then they need to treat every man equal. It goes both ways! If you do no want to be treated unfairly based on race or gender, then you cannot expect to be treated special based on race or gender. Lastly, stop offering “no taxes” for 2-3 yrs for immigrants who come to the US to start a business. They only keep tranferring the business out of their name and into another relatives name to keep from paying the taxes. But yet native born business owners are getting slaughterd! How can we call ourselves Americans when our own country caters more to immigrants then its own ppl?!!

        Well, that’s what I would be protesting at least. Specific demands that would save the country millions if not billions of dollars. (last demand: the savings be refunded to the taxpayers and not to the goverments/state’s general fund, refund the money to those who actually put it in!)

      2. Tim

        I understand you are a blogger and you are voicing your opinion, but you might want to get your facts right before you go off on a tirade. As already mentioned in the comments, you are taking one individual’s list of demands as that of a larger movement, even though the occupy wall street website clearly states it is not an official list of demands (there are none). Clearly you disagree with this one individual, but why use that as a platform against everyone else? That’s quite the generalization you are making and you are construing the information to make a point against something you don’t fully understand. If you only deal with facts and don’t twist the information into something else, you’re points would be more valid and your opinion would carry weight.

  6. Anonymous; expect us

    The occupiers work through a democratic process. There is no “spokesperson” authorized to speak on behalf of the occupiers without approval of a general assembly. The comment in the demands, “And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.” suggests that the author of this article has decided to provide some individual’s demands. Why the author might do that… is for you to think about. From my perspective, that comment suggests the article’s author is less than diligent in sourcing information. Your call unless the author now cares to clarify what the information source is. (?)

  7. Anonymous; expect us

    Yes. Please try do something about making some representation about your source. (?) That would seem at least… nominally prudent? No? Unless of course around here it’s the case one need not bother with the little details… like for example, facts!…. or identifying some source of information, for example. Seems everything around this site exists as conjecture, rhetorical crap that feeds into larger “mysteriously informed truth” (as this article demonstrates) propaganda messaging generally. Would it be too outrageous to ask that, as a practice, you’d provide some source? Golly, big thanks.