http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AATSAQeKLU

We also have learn is to stop fighting with each other. We have got to learn to put aside our differences and work towards a common goal. We the People have bigger enemies than each other to face, and we will not be able to do it without joining together.

Just sayin’

Yes, many of these people are young, inexperienced, and don’t have a clue about how the real world works. If OWS was hiding that fact, these forums wouldn’t be open to public viewing. But, do you know what? These kids are Americans. You may not like their views, but they have a voice too.

I believe that list came out after the protesters were told to ‘stop listing demands’. There’s this post:

“The opponents of this movement are using the demands posted in this forum as the official lists. And some of these lists regardless of how right or wrong are extreme points of view and will only hurt our cause by making us look like extremist nut jobs. You don’t speak for everyone in this. Stop creating public demand lists, delete demands threads. Let the organizers and the law team working for them do this.”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-website-stop-listing-demands-we-look-like-complete-imbecils/

So basically, that tells me the ‘organizers’ and the ‘law team’ believe the people on the ground don’t know what they are protesting….at least until they are told. Which just proves my point. Thank you.

Did you pick this one list simply because it was the easiest to “ridicule” or because in your enormous amount of reading you failed to find any other proposals? What about this one? These proposals are actually the ones being voted on. I found it in two locations in just under 3 minutes of searching.

Occupy Wall Street – Official Demands
Written by Anonymous

The Sovereign People’s Movement, represented nationally through the people occupying the various Liberty Square locations across this great country, have laid out and democratically submitted and are currently voting on the list of following Demands to then be distilled into one Unified Common demand of the people.

1. CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 (“RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT” http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1489 ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT.

2. USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis…

3. CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections.

4. CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE.

5. CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION and staff it at all levels with proven professionals who get the job done protecting the integrity of the marketplace so citizens and investors are both protected.

6. CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS.

7. CONGRESS PASSING “Revolving Door Legislation” LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED.

8. ELIMINATE “PERSONHOOD” LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS.

http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/page/2

they want their school loans paid for, they want free healthcare, their mortgages paid…..because it apparently is “not fair” that they aren’t making a ton of money in their chosen profession after they graduate from college. The majority of the stories seem to be from young single mothers. I found that interesting. Read the stories there….then you’ll know more.

Also,
Their list of demand on the OWS site ( http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/ )

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

then there’s this one:

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

and they wonder why we laugh at them???

As it relates to your comment “If its good enough for Alinsky, why on earth would you characterize conservatives as “devolving” into ridicule. Its a tried and true tactic from one of the most crafty and brilliant left-wing minds of our time”

The answer is: From whose time? I appreciate your difficulty in trying to comprehend a 21st century protest movement from the perspective of the 20th century. Alinsky attempted to impart his theory and methods of organizing to the 70′s generation of young activists, organizing that drew upon his own experiences in the 60′s.

Here are some contemporary insights you might learn from in mainstream media (CNN) opinion that handily flatten your “Alinsky Maneuver” battle tactic of ridiculing. Your ridicule is already being ridiculed as analysis that incoherently clings to antiquated and obsolete perspectives: http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/05/opinion/rushkoff-occupy-wall-street/index.html

Your article goes about setting up two questions and then answers itself, in its suggestion of engaging the battle tactics of Alinsky’s ‘Rules for Radicals’. I believe that together Jen’s comments (shared below) and your article’s two questions above: “What are Conservatives going to do to counter them [the occupiers] and maintain the dignity of the Tea Party Conservatives?” raise a couple of very good ‘bigger picture’ questions. The occupiers objectives are, essentially, to let Washington know that the American people won’t be pushed around anymore by corporations (and/or by the politicians corporations own) at the expense of the American people.

The larger unanswered questions being:

1.) “why” in the first place do you have the sense that Conservatives need to “counter them” [the occupiers] ?

…and…

2.) just “how” is it, as you’ve asserted in your article’s question, that that occupy protests would “challenge the dignity of the Tea Party” ?

Your article goes about setting up two questions and then answers itself, in its suggestion of engaging the battle tactics of Alinsky’s ‘Rules for Radicals’. I believe that together Jen’s comments (shared below) and your article’s two questions above: “What are Conservatives going to do to counter them [the occupiers] and maintain the dignity of the Tea Party Conservatives?” raise a couple of very good ‘bigger picture’ questions. The occupiers objectives are, essentially, to let Washington know that the American people won’t be pushed around anymore by corporations (and/or by the politicians corporations own) at the expense of the American people.

The larger unanswered questions being:

1.) “why” in the first place do you have the sense that Conservatives need to “counter them” [the occupiers] ?

…and…

2.) just “how” is it, as you’ve asserted in your article’s question, that that occupy protests would “challenge the dignity of the Tea Party” ?

The yelling and anger at OWS is directed against those people who took the money from the American people to bail them out from their bad business deals, didn’t use the money as it was supposed to be used, didn’t provide any transparency, and then turned around and paid themselves large bonuses. That is the difference. Are you angry at those who are creating the problems, or are you angry at your fellow Americans who are different than you – lesbian or gay, atheist, liberal, pro-choice, etc.? (You in general, not you personally

Regarding the antisemitism and anti-tea party comments, I didn’t hear them so I can not comment. As far as no arrests happening at Tea Party Rallies, that should tell us all something about who the Banksters feel are the real threat to their continued rape of the American people. They leave the Tea Party alone because they feel the Tea Party is an asset to them, unlike those at the OWS protests. Did you see the footage taken just before those 700 walked onto the Brooklyn Bridge? They were obediently following the police officers who were leading them in the march. The police led them onto the bridge, where more police were waiting to arrest them.